02 Pontiac Grand Prix, Viper 5704

Looks like only two diodes for the door triggers on the 4 door sedan, as per this note from DEI :

The tan is located in the drivers kick and catches only the drivers door. The dark/blue is located in the passenger kick panel and

catches all other doors, must diode isolate these wires.

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ok so i am trying to flash the 1.00 firmware and Optimax Flash doesnt see my bypass module 0_0 wth????? Any help would be great :) It does say usb device found but thats all it says :(

Not sure where you are at on this.  The Optimax section is only for bypass modules that DEI OEM's from Fortin, like the PKALL

and DLPK.  The XK0x series are standard DEI modules.  With the XKLoader plugged in, try going to this URL : http://www.xpresskit.com/At that point, select your vehicle from the pull down menus.

That should give you this screen :

Notice that the box in the upper left area ID's your bypass module.  Click on "Flash It" in the lower left area.  That should give you this screen :

You will need to have previously downloaded some S/W and drivers from DEI to get these screens.

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Ok guys i need a little help and guidance here. Im making my wiring refrance diagram for the viper remote starter connections. Here is a refrence sheet for my car--- https://www.dropbox.com/s/cg8ui2kx19sahsj/2002%20Grand%20Prix%20Wire%20Diagram.doc And here is what i have so far for the remote start wires. REMOTE START 10-PIN HEAVY GUAGE CONNECTOR Fused Connections- Red (Ignition Input- 1) RED / White (Ignition- 2 Flex Relay Input) RED / Black (Starter Input/Accessory) Regular Connections- Pink (Ignition Input/Output- 1) Orange (Accessory Output) Green (Starter Input- “Key Side Kill”) Violet (Starter Output- “Car Side Kill”) Pink/White (Ignition- 2 Flex Relay Output) Pink/Black (Flex Relay Input “Key Side If Required”) The other thing im not sure of is if some of these need to be just need to be tapped into and which ones need to be cut. So that one side can be input from the key side and the other is hooked up to output for car side. Im learning slowly :/ Please help me figure out which wires go where and feel free to edit and add to what i have. Im hoping to have a complete document i can look at while installing. But i need your help :)

Cut the starter wire, key side to green and starter motor side to violet. All others are soldered, remember pink to ignition 1 and pink/white to ignition 2. Also 3 ACC wires, orange to ACC 1. Satellite loom orange low NEG 2nd. ACC output via 2 1N4004 diodes in a "Y" shape to a pair of relays, orange to both 85, 30amps fused to 86 and 87 each relay, then 30 on each relay to ACC 2 and ACC 3. Absolutely mandatory or you WILL throw a DTC. When you say "patch" how are you joining the cables? Over to Kregg, it's 12:30am and I'm off to sleep.

Cut the starter wire, key side to green and starter motor side to violet. All others are soldered, remember pink to ignition 1 and pink/white to ignition 2. Also 3 ACC wires, orange to ACC 1. Satellite loom orange low NEG 2nd. ACC output (H2/22) via 2 1N4004 diodes in a "Y" shape to a pair of relays, orange to both 85, 30amps fused to 86 and 87 each relay, then 30 on each relay to ACC 2 and ACC 3. Absolutely mandatory or you WILL throw a DTC. When you say "patch" how are you joining the cables? Over to Kregg, it's 12:30am and I'm off to sleep.

I'm soldering all my connections. When you ask about me patching wires I meant tapping into them because I have a tool that allows me to strip the wire without cutting. The others I have to cut so I have a key side input and a car side output. Also I have a question about the flex relay wires. Are they needed on my car or not? And if so where do they go and yo what colors? I'm slowly gaining the confidence for the install but I'm doing a lot of asking questions and planning as you can see.

Use a DMM and verify all wires at ignition switch harness.

Constant 12V+ Wire: Red ( and possibly RED / White )         Split load between H3/2, H3/6

Constant 12V+ Wire Location: Ignition Switch Harness     and H3/9 ( and H1/2 )

Starter Wire (+): Yellow             Cut wire  H3/4 car side

Starter Wire Location: Ignition Switch Harness             H3/5 key side

Second Starter Wire (+): N/A

Second Start Wire Location: N/A

Ignition Wire (+): Pink                 H3/1

Ignition Wire Location: Ignition Switch Harness

Second Ignition Wire: White                   H3/7  Program default = IGN2

Second Ignition Wire Location: Ignition Switch Harness     

Accessory Wire: Orange                          H3/3

Accessory Wire Location: Ignition Switch Harness

Second Accessory Wire: Brown       External Relay controlled by

Second Accessory Wire Location: Ignition Switch Harness    ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT                   This Brown ACC2 wire might not be        necessary for remote start.

H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT Pink

H3/2 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87 RedH3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT   OrangeH3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL)           YellowH3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL WIRE)    YellowH3/6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT        RedH3/7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT              WhiteH3/8 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side of FLEX RELAY               N.U.H3/9 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT          RedH3/10 NC (no connection)  NC

ACC2 external relay ( 30/40 Amp SPDT ) if needed  :

Relay Pin 85 to ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUTRelay Pin 86 and 87 to +12V constant fused at 20 AmpsRelay Pin 30 to Brown ACC2 wireRelay Pin 87A not used - insulate

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Now you've had the satellite relay question answered 3 times, once by me before you even posted! Sorry, I somehow read it as 3 ACC wires not two, scratch the post regarding 2 relays, only one required. AFIK not connecting BOTH ACC wires will throw trouble codes/transmission problems (DTC s).

What do you guys mean when you say to split the load of the 12v constant wire? Also the reference sheet you posted is a little confusing. Is the left side the wires coming from the viper? And the right side the color of the car wires? Also what do you mean about the satellite relay?