Brake Shutdown Input

kreg357 wrote: On manual transmission vehicles, the Neutral Safety wire should go to the Parking Brake wire ( if an actual neutral safety signal is not available ). What are your plans on the clutch bypass?

Well that was next once I got the other going in the right direction. And honestly not sure for everything I read and research didn't mention any thing about a clutch bypass. I'll have to look and see if I can google any info on it.

Not very planned out on my part.

C_Hawks

2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab

4 cylinder, manual trans

You will need a clutch bypass, as there won't be anyone sitting in the truck to depress the clutch pedal for you when you hit the remote start button at a distance of up to 1 mile...   Soldering is fun!

Question then. What do I need to bypass the clutch? I have a clutch start cancel on my truck already. What must be done to make remote start work?C_Hawks

2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab

4 cylinder, manual trans

Clutch Pedal

blue/black (input), BLACK / YELLOW (output)

+ N.O.

clutch switch, black 2 pin plug, pins 1 and 2

Clutch Pedal

blue/black (input), BLACK / YELLOW (output)

+ N.O.

clutch switch, black 2 pin plug, pins 1 and 2

Mike M2

Tech Manager

CS Dealer Services

Mike M2 wrote: Clutch Pedal blue/black (input), BLACK / YELLOW (output) + N.O. clutch switch, black 2 pin plug, pins 1 and 2 Clutch Pedal blue/black (input), BLACK / YELLOW (output) + N.O. clutch switch, black 2 pin plug, pins 1 and 2

In the interest of not sounding completely retard or insulting. this means what? Other then the obvious that those are the wires for the clutch.

C_Hawks

2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab

4 cylinder, manual trans

Not to sound like an ***, but it doesn't sound like you know enough of what you are doing to take this on. A simple mistake on a remote starter install can cost thousands of dollars in damage to the vehicle. Do yourself a huge favor and bring it to a pro. Also, what unit are you installing? If it is not a unit designed for manual transmissions then you need to stop the install completely as you are creating a MAJOR safety hazard.Kenny

Owner / Technician

KKD Garage LLC

Albany, NY 12205

The system is a Viper 4704. It is manual transmission capable. It is a little out of my realm of knowledge but it is coming together now. Thanks to all the info and help I have recieved. Will admit after this install I will not do ne again.C_Hawks

2009 Toyota Tacoma Access cab

4 cylinder, manual trans

Well if you insist on doing it, then just make sure that you TEST and verify EVERYTHING. Don't take anything from here or any other site for word. If you don't have a Digital Multimeter, get one before you continue.Kenny

Owner / Technician

KKD Garage LLC

Albany, NY 12205

Clutch Pedal  blue/black (input), BLACK / YELLOW (output)  + N.O.  clutch switch, black 2 pin plug, pins 1 and 2

What this means :  When the clutch pedal is fully depressed, the Normally Open switch closes.  This allows the

Blue/Black input wire to pass it's (+) signal thru to the BLACK / YELLOW wire and on to the vehicles starter circuit.

Test:

You should verify this function with a Digital Multi Meter.  Set the DMM to 20V DC, connect the Black test lead tochassis ground and connect the Red test lead to the Blue/Black wire.  The vehicles ignition must be ON.  You should see +12V.  Move the Red test lead to the BLACK / YELLOW wire.  You should see 0V.  Slowly depress the clutch pedal.Near the end of its' travel ( almost to the floor ) the DMM should show +12v.  If everything works as stated continue on to the bypass.

Bypass:

There are several ways to bypass this type of clutch interlock.  First, you must be using a manual transmission safe

remote starter unit, like your Viper 4704V.  It has built in safeties that ensure the vehicle is parked & lockedwith the shifter in neutral and stays locked and un-entered until a remote start.  This ensures everyones safety.

Here is one way to bypass the clutch interlock switch.  It does not alter the normal function of the switch but allows

a bypass during remote start only.  Obtain a Bosch style automotive 30/40 Amp SPDT relay and fuse holder w/ 3 amp fuse.  Wire as follows :Relay Pin 85 to Viper 4704V H/3 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT  *** set to 2nd StatusRelay Pin 86 to +12V constant thru 3 A fuseRelay Pin 87 to Tacoma Clutch Blue/Black input wireRelay Pin 30 to Tacoma Clutch BLACK / YELLOW output wireRelay Pin 87A not used - insulate

The relay in its' normal de-energized state has no affect on the clutch interlock circuit.  It will operate normally.

During a remote start, the Viper will output a ground on its' Blue/White 2nd Status wire.  This will cause the relayto energize.  Once energized the relay will connect Pin 87 to Pin 30, allowing the (+) signal around the clutch interlockswitch to the output wire, making the vehicle think the clutch has been depressed and allow the engine to start.

Soldering is fun!