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2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial


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vinchinzo 
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Joined: October 11, 2012
Location: Kentucky, United States
Posted: October 23, 2012 at 3:36 PM / IP Logged  
This is a pictorial for a remote start and security system into a 2004 Mountaineer/explorer. The system installed was a Viper 5704 with a Dei Pkall bypass module.
It is important to prepare your r/s alarm system as much as possible for install. find wiring diagrams and test all wires with your digital multimeter.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
Remove front driver, front passenger, and passenger rear step panels by pulling up on them. Remove instrument panels according to diagram.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
1.remove two screws at top of instrument cluster ring.
2.remove two screws at bottom of steering column casing after (there is a third screw at rear you will see after removing bottom casing.
3.remove top casing
4.remove two screws holding bottom dash cover.
5.pull cover off. (there are snaps)
6.remove three screws holding front dash cover on then simply pull out by the driver side window vent pulling from snap. (do not have to remove whole panel just loosen it)
Run door triggers first that is the hardest part. You have to either use a Dei door trigger module or use 8/1amp diodes and 4/10k ohm resistors as followed (Diodes are directional, make sure your diodes are in the direction shown)
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
this is how I made my diodes work.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
finished adapter (you can do the same method with your resistors the only difference is it dont matter what direction your resistors are)
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
msure to test all diodes before installing in vehicle. to do this set dmm to diode mode. one way will read 0 the other way should read as shown. (aslong as you get a reading one way and no reading the other your diodes are ok.)
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
all door triggers, hatch release, and hatch trigger will be found together at rear passenger side step.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
finished Door trigger setup
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
this is how to run wires for the door/hatch triggers,hatch release, and resistor 12v feed.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
optional* use a drill. insert ends of all wires into drill hold the other ends heading to rear and twist wires (makes it easier to run and put tubing on.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
run wires up passenger kick and behind glove box like shown. wait to run to drivers side until you run your siren, hood pin, and tach wire.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
finished setup
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
run siren, tach, and hood pin wires into glove box area as shown.
on the passenger side under the hood at the firewall there will be two wires (I think they are gray and black) coming in with a rubber boot. from the inside by the glove box run a coat hanger thru. make sure to poke thru top of rubber boot and do not mess the factory wires up. after poking coat hanger thru it makes it easier if you then poke a phillips head thru boaring out a bigger hole. then put your coat hanger back in and pull your wires into the cabin.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
install Piezo (optional)just tap into red and black siren wires.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
run wires into driver side
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
setup siren tach and hood pin under hood. (have not installed hood pin yet just ran wire)
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
here is where I ran hood pin wire to so far..
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
run control center behind rear view tuck wire into headliner and down driver window frame(just pull door seal off and pull trim off it just snaps on no screws) I didn't have to tape the control center on I just pulled the wire panel going to the rear view out just enough to stick one side of the antenna behind it and it stays real well.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
pull wires using hanger
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
place alarm module in a good spot. it is real hard to find a spot on explorers of this year because the dash is so tight. this is how I done it.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
run remote start and parking light wires to the same spot as shown. Start from behind fuse box and pull using coat hanger.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
Parking light connection
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
Ignition
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
bypass module
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
transponder connector at ignition key tumbler. (green connector)
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
when its done it looks like this
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
run locks, dome light and trunk pop relays
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
trunk and dome relays
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
shock sensor
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
ground (alarm module, neutral safety, and sirens)
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
Done
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
when tapping into factory wires cut insulation about 1/4 inch then poke a tooth pick or rubber handled pic thru the center of wire. cut the wire you are running about a 1/2 inch poke thru hole and twist real good make sure it is not loose.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
solder your connections and insulate real good! if you are not good at soldering you can really mess things up in your vehicle. it would be best for you to just make sure your connections are tight and then insulate. I like tape over heat shrink its a personal thing. if you do tape, use zip ties around everything to hold a good insulation.
its better to run once and last years then run sloppy and your car catch on fire!
this is my first alarm install and pictorial I hope it helps someone else not wanting to spend a house payment on an alarm install =)
some pictures didnt show up right this is the ignition
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
When in doubt....kick it!
shortcircuit161 
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Very nice!! Congrats on your first install. 2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
It shows that you did your research. It would be nice if more people took their time and did it right.
Frank
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kreg357 
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Posted: October 23, 2012 at 6:50 PM / IP Logged  
  X 2 with Frank.  Excellent write-up with great picture and advice.  2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
Soldering is fun!
vinchinzo 
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Posted: October 23, 2012 at 7:05 PM / IP Logged  
These are pics that didn't show up because I had bad file names (thanks Kregg for the info)=)
Diodes: you want to make sure the wire ends are taped or insulated separately like shown then the other ends can be put together into one wire.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
Piezo location (optional)
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
The ignition pictures that didn't show up
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
When in doubt....kick it!
vinchinzo 
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Copper spacespace
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Posted: October 23, 2012 at 7:13 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks guys!!! I was so worried about putting them fuses in after I was done lol I mean all them wire connections and diodes, resistors and stuff was crazy!!! =0)I thought my ride was gonna catch on fire haha I got to give you guys credit without Kregg, shortciruit, and flobee I wouldn't have got it done like I did you guys all rock! Kregg you da man. Huge thanks to you all. Im pretty sure after this install I could probably do any alarm system lol.
Another tip for people. When you get it all hooked up make sure to program the tach, set the viper to automatic transmission before you program the Pkall. (and go thru the steps as fast as you can) I tried to program my module first and failed like 6 times lol.
When in doubt....kick it!
vinchinzo 
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Posted: October 25, 2012 at 6:11 PM / IP Logged  
I installed my hood pin today. I looked and looked for a good spot to place the pin into the metal frame and I really couldnt find a spot I liked that would be free from water and also not get broke off if someone was working on the engine (like when installed in the front of car). So I rigged up something with a old dryer plug bracket I had laying around =)
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
I soldered a wire on to the metal bracket to make ground. You could make ground in another way but I feel it would help save from corrosion of any sort. I also made sure the top of the pin hit the hood head on by slowly closing the hood and looking inside and bending it slightly until it was right. I know if it his sideways sooner or later it would just break probably..
When in doubt....kick it!
vinchinzo 
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Posted: October 25, 2012 at 6:17 PM / IP Logged  
This was what the bracket originally was like. I just bent the curves straight, folded one end of the back down, then shot it with some primer and black paint..
2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.
When in doubt....kick it!
kreg357 
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That looks sharp and should last a lot longer than the one supplied in the kit.  Well done!  2004 Mountaineer/Explorer Remote Start Pictorial -- posted image.

Soldering is fun!
vinchinzo 
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Copper spacespace
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Posted: October 25, 2012 at 6:41 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks bro! I think it will to. I also added some de-electric grease to everything. I really didn't want to put that metal one that came with the kit on, I know them suck. And hey if this acts up I didn't drill any holes I can just rip it out run the wire back to the hinge and go the mercury switch route with ease ;)
When in doubt....kick it!
jsotomar 
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Posted: January 15, 2013 at 1:51 PM / IP Logged  
Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but didnt want to create a new thread when the answer is already here.
I have the Autopage C3-RS-665 with LCD. Im about 85% done of installing, but just had a question. I did all the door triggers like above already. The alarm wire "Negative Hood/Trunk trigger", I know this gets connected to the Wht/Violt and Tn/LtGrn wires, but do these need to be isolated as well (just like the door triggers with the diodes)?
My trunk and Hood keep flashing open; locks and unlocks with remote, but does not Arm.
Thanks!
(2002 Explorer)
I love Cheese.
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