avital 4103 remote start, 2000 grand prix

Hello, We're you able to look in to my question about the problem that I'm having with my door locks noted in my previous emails. Thank you in advance for all of your help!Wes

Hello, Having problems with my door lock and I can't figure it out. I hooked up R/S light blue (-) Unlock Output wire to the cars white (-) wire. Then hooked up R/S green (-) Lock Output wire to the cars light blue (-) wire. I did not use tan color car Door Trigger wire, maybe this is my problem? . Now with R/S remote, pressing the lock button while the doors are unlocked will not lock the doors, I first have to press the unlock button first followed by the lock button and then the doors will lock. What could be the reason why the doors locks are not working correctly, I'm sure I'm doing something wrong but I just can't figure it out. What is the tan color Door Trigger wire for? Am I suppose to use this Door Trigger wire? Would I harm anything with the door locks working as I described above? Thank you.Wes

The Door Trigger wire is not needed for the Avital 4103 ( it is not an alarm system or intended

for manual trans vehicles ).  There is no 41043 Door Trigger Input wire to connect the vehiclesdoor triggers to.  The G.P.'s Tan Door Trigger wire gives a (-) output when the Drivers Door is open.

No clue as to the lock problem.  There are a few tests you could do to try and isolate the problem.

First, use your DMM to verify that the 4103 is outputting a (-) Lock pulse every time you press the

Lock button.

Second verify the vehicles Lock wire.  Do this with the DMM first, then try actuating the vehicles

door locks using a fused jumper wire.  A brief connection between chassis ground and the correct Light Blue (-) Lock wire in the vehicle.  This should consistently make the doors lock.

Here is the vehicle ( 2000 Pontiac Grand Prix ) lock info from several sources :

Omega

 Lock      L BLUE (-)        16 PIN CONNECTOR IN DRIVER KICK  Unlock   WHITE (-)    PANEL OR AT BODY CONTROL MODULE *** *** Body Control Module (BCM) Located Behind Driver Dash To Left Of Steering Column

Audiovox

 Power Unlock  WHITE  (-) NEGATIVE TRIGGER    Power Lock     LIGHT BLUE  (-)    AT MODULE ABOVE DRIVER'S KICK PANEL.

Ready Remote

 Power Lock  lt. blue  (-)  driver kick panel     Power Unlock  white  (-)  driver kick panel

Bulldog

 POWER LOCK        LIGHT BLUE (TYPE B)     IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL  POWER UNLOCK    WHITE (TYPE B) IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL

While it shouldn't have changed from the factory default setting, verify that the 4103 is

still set for .8 Second Doorlock pulses ( Menu 1, Item 4, Opt 1 ).

As a last resort, you could try setting the 4103 to double Lock pulse output ( Menu 1, Item 6, opt 2 )

to see if that helps.  ( Shouldn't be necessary with your car.)

Soldering is fun!

Hello, Sorry for not getting back to you sooner to thank you for your response, you don't know how much help you are giving me, I would not be able to do this without your help...... thank you! Now working on finishing install, hopefully I can finish today, no sport practices today and hoping no other interruptions with my children. Back to doors unlocking problem. I did try the two changes to the settings on the R/S that you suggested but the problem still exists. I don't think that I explained the door lock problem clearly in my previous email but will now try. The following problem exists weather the doors start off being locked or unlocked, the problem still exist. If I first hit the unlock button on the vehicles door and then try to lock the doors with the R/S it will not lock the doors, in this case I first need to hit the unlock button on the R/S followed by the lock button on the R/S to lock the doors. Second thing I realized in trying different combinations of pushing buttons seeing how it may or may not affect the door locks is: If I hit the unlock button on the R/S and then hit the vehcials unlock button and then hit the lock button on the R/S it "will" lock the doors. My conclusion is that if using the unlock button on the vehicles is the last thing I do does not affect weather the R/S lock button will work, it appears that hitting the R/S unlock button anytime prior to trying to lock the doors with the R/S button is what will make it work.     This is something my son can live with but still wondering what can cause this and if there is a way to fix this? Will leaving it this way hurt or damage anything? In one of my previous emails I asked about the "Orange (-) 500mA Ground When Locked/Anti-Grind Output" wire and your reply was "Not needed for you application, could be used if Anti-Grind is desire" Question is what is the benefit in using this wire? Would you recommend me hooking up this wire? if yes, what wire does it get hooked up to? Sorry for the long email, hope you understand what I was trying to explain with the door locks. Thanks again and have a great weekend! Wes