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06 4runner viper 4704v error 3 rpm


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dpav02 
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Hey all, I was hoping some of you could help me.
I connected the violet/white wire to the BLACK/ white wire of E8 (Toyota ECM, 2nd plug from the bottom)
I have a Fluke multimeter and I set it to AC, I started the car and read the voltage just to make sure I had the correct wire....
Sure enough, as I reved the car, I saw the voltage increase. As I let go, it dropped. So I figured I had the correct wire.
However, now I'm questioning it.
I have a Viper 4704v with the PKALL bypass programmed. I tried to start the car with the remote and it has the 3 attempts before giving me the error.
When I check the Remote Start Shutdown/Startup Diagnostics it says: 3 flashes - Low or No RPM.
I even made the brain learn the tach by using the instructions:
1. Start the vehicle with the key. Within 5 seconds, press and hold the Control button.
2. After 3 seconds the status LED on your Control Center lights constant when the tach signal is learned. 3. Release the Control button.
Note: When the tachometer is programmed, the main unit automatically enters the Tachometer engine checking mode.
The LED stays solid and everything.
Could it be an issue with my bypass? Everything else works, the locks, the lights, the buzzer I hooked up (instead of the horn)
Can anybody point me to what I may be missing?
One thing I thought of: Anything that says it goes to the ignition harness, I have it hooked up to the bigger gaged wires going to the white plug.
The only exception was key sense. I have that going to the GREEN / WHITE wire to the blue plug below my steering column.
Maybe I have one of my ignition or accessory wires in the wrong location?
Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
howie ll 
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I usually use pin 9 on the data (OBD II) socket under dash for tach on Toyotas.
howie ll 
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No sorry you're correct on tach location.
N.B. Keysense is GREEN/ YELLOW so check the rest of your wiring.
dpav02 
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Yea that's what I'm about to do.
It's just frustrating that it doesn't even try to crank when I'm getting voltage to the green black starter wire.
dpav02 
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So I tried to change the engine type...
Using virtual tach I get 9 flashes, and having it off it doesn't do anything.
In all cases, the car turns on, but there's no cranking.
I'm so close! If anybody could offer suggestions on what to check first that'd be great.
I'm going to start with everything to the ignition harness
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Viper 4704V H3 Harness           2006 4Runner

1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT          BLACK/ Red @ Ignition Switch Harness
2 RED / WHITE (+) 12VDC CONSTANT INPUT   Red @ Ignition Switch Harness
3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT            WHITE/ Green @ Ignition Switch Harness
4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT        GREEN/ Black @ Ignition Switch Harness
5 RED (+) 12VDC CONSTANT INPUT             Red @ Ignition Switch Harness
6 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT         Blue / YELLOW @ Ignition Switch Harness
7 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A   Not Used
8 RED / BLACK (+) 12VDC CONSTANT INPUT   WHITE/ Blue @ Ignition Switch Harness

What happens if you unplug the PKALL and insert, but not turn, the ignition key and try a remote start?

Also, where to you connect the PKALL Blue (-) While Running wire?

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pentavolvo 
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a no crank points to the pkall
dpav02 
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Okay, I just double checked what you said.
The only difference was some things that you said went to WHITE/ Blue I had going to Red and vice versa...
But I wouldn't think that would matter because they're both just 12VDC positive.
HOWEVER, I did switch them to match what you described. I also triple checked my connections (I'm using posi-taps). Everything is tight.
I disconnected the PKALL and tried with the key with no luck. Same thing. Radio comes on, it dies, 3 times then my pager is sent the official error.
FYI, I have the PKALL connected via D2D as well as the H2/9 (dark blue) wire from the remote start to the blue/white wire of the PKALL (the same harness where key sense / TX / RX get hooked up to)
I'm stumped.
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dump the posi-taps and solder and tape your connections.
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You haven't seen my soldering skills... They're terrible :(
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