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Posted: February 09, 2013 at 7:05 PM / IP Logged  
If you have a immobilizer connected and you insert a key into the ignition, it will not start as the RS is seeing two keys.  Did you do tach learn?
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Posted: February 09, 2013 at 7:31 PM / IP Logged  
Sorry howie II, no the ignition lights do not come on. I will also disconnect the yellow wire (H1/3) seeing as its not needed. Smokeman1 yes i did do the tach learning routine but with the module being as unresponsive as it has i dont know if the tach learning was successful or not. Could you elaborate on the RS seeing two keys and then not starting?
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Tach Learning is on page 28 of the install manual.  I am confused. You say you have the 556 connected, and then you say it is not connected.  Can you list the connections from the 556 to what on the car or RS. 

Which module is not responsive the Avital or the bypass?

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Posted: February 09, 2013 at 8:24 PM / IP Logged  
Any flashes from the parking lights?  If so, how many flashes?
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Posted: February 09, 2013 at 8:39 PM / IP Logged  
dbl check your brake shutdown wire if you have it connected to wrong wire and it has 12 volts on it when it shouldnt then it will not even attempt to start
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Posted: February 09, 2013 at 10:32 PM / IP Logged  
I think there is some confusion here between the immobilizer and the bypass. I have a bypass, the 556uw, which is meant to bypass the immobilizer built into the car. As of right now the bypass is not currently connected at all. The immobilizer, the module that gets the RFID signal from the key and lets the car continue to run, is still hooked up. To combat the immobilizer still being connected I always insert the key into the ignition (without turning it obviously) so the immobilizer wont shut down the engine. However the engine never starts with the remote starter so in reality the immobilizer is not the issue. The parking lights do not flash and the Avital module is completely unresponsive.
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The fact that you have the key in the ignition means you don't have to worry about a by-pass at this point.
Have you checked the voltages yet?
If you were getting power through the circuit you should be getting the instrument lights coming on.
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Posted: February 10, 2013 at 7:23 AM / IP Logged  
Time to get the DMM out and start checking for voltage. Check to make sure all the connectors are in tight.
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Posted: February 10, 2013 at 9:21 AM / IP Logged  
I will go and check all my connections and check the voltages going to the module, hopefully that’s all the problem is. Some other people have been telling me my module could still be in “programming mode” (whatever that means) and that could be the reason why its not working. Anyone heard of this?
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It automatically times out after about a minute with no programming or after the ignition has been turned on/off so don't listen to "some people".
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