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Yea, what howie is saying is that since your alarm does not have provisions for a negative parking light output you have 2 options.
1) As howie suggests, find the parking light (indicator) lights after the factory relay (may have to go direct to the bulbs). If you go with this method you will have to diode isolate the wires so they do not back feed into each other.
2) Probably the easier method would be to get an external relay to change the + output to a - so that you can connect to either the - parking light wire or the hazards (4 ways). The relay would be wired like so:
87 - Chassis ground
30 - (-) parking light wire or (-) hazard wire
86 - + parking light output of alarm / remote start
85 - Chassis ground
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Posted: March 04, 2013 at 1:50 PM / IP Logged  
30 to light green at the Haz switch. If not light green it be the wire that activates the hazards when grounded (connect to MASSA).
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Posted: March 04, 2013 at 1:56 PM / IP Logged  
offroadzj wrote:
Yea, what howie is saying is that since your alarm does not have provisions for a negative parking light output you have 2 options.
1) As howie suggests, find the parking light (indicator) lights after the factory relay (may have to go direct to the bulbs). If you go with this method you will have to diode isolate the wires so they do not back feed into each other.
2) Probably the easier method would be to get an external relay to change the + output to a - so that you can connect to either the - parking light wire or the hazards (4 ways). The relay would be wired like so:
87 - Chassis ground
30 - (-) parking light wire or (-) hazard wire
86 - + parking light output of alarm / remote start
85 - Chassis ground
Thanks,
I do not understand howie, he is angry.
I identified the wire of the flash correctly, I check with the tester; and he told me the colour of the wire... the problem is not turn on when the alarm start; why? Could be that when I press the lever of the flash does NOT TURN ON until I start the ingition?
I think with the posibility of connect the flashers to the hazards; my idea is a rele:
- positive --> one of the two wire that go out from spy
- negative --> ground
- NO and common --> two of the wire that are connected to the hazard (both that there are not the light of the hazard), it does not matter which of them in which.
is these correct?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
capi 
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Posted: March 04, 2013 at 1:57 PM / IP Logged  
howie ll wrote:
30 to light green at the Haz switch. If not light green it be the wire that activates the hazards when grounded (connect to MASSA).
I do not know the number of the rele, I know:
- POS
- NEG
- N.O.
- COMMON
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Posted: March 04, 2013 at 2:08 PM / IP Logged  
Pos - Light flash output from remote start
Neg - chassis ground
NO - light green wire at hazard switch
Common - Chassis ground.
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capi 
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Posted: March 04, 2013 at 2:13 PM / IP Logged  
offroadzj wrote:
Pos - Light flash output from remote start
Neg - chassis ground
NO - light green wire at hazard switch
Common - Chassis ground.
Neg and common to negative both? ok, more easy...
The NO, I do not understand, what is the light green wire ? Are you tell me the light green or the wire green? To the hazard come 4 wire, two (pos and neg) for the light of the button, the other two for the flasher.
Can you tell me the relation of pos, neg, no and common with the number of the rele? I want a bit of knowledge.
Sorry with my english...
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
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Posted: March 04, 2013 at 3:25 PM / IP Logged  
By light green I mean the light green wire (color) at the hazard switch. Test to make sure it activates the parking lights, but it should.
86 - POS
85 - NEG
87 - N/O (normally open)
30 - Common
87a - N/C (normally closed)
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capi 
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Posted: March 05, 2013 at 8:19 AM / IP Logged  
Sorry, I checked again, and when I activate the flasher the signal is negative (not positive)...
So... how can I connected it? At this moment, I have to the levers of the steering column, but it does not work... If I connect with the rele without change to the hazard will work?:
87 - Chassis ground
30 - (-) parking light wire (which of them? now I have both connected because from the alarm go out two brown wires)
86 - + parking light output of alarm
85 - Chassis ground
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
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Posted: March 05, 2013 at 8:53 AM / IP Logged  
30 is going to your (-) hazard activation wire which you said you found. The 86 will go to the parking light output (+) from the SPY unit. It doesn't matter which one you use.
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Albany, NY 12205
capi 
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Posted: March 05, 2013 at 9:02 AM / IP Logged  
offroadzj wrote:
30 is going to your (-) hazard activation wire which you said you found. The 86 will go to the parking light output (+) from the SPY unit. It doesn't matter which one you use.
But I said If I can use the actual connection, that is to say, can I obtain from the levers of the steering column for the number 30 or have I to use the hazard?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
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