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kjaikaran 
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Posted: February 24, 2013 at 1:09 AM / IP Logged  
This is my first remote start alarm install, and my first post on this forum. I have gathered a lot of information from this forum already that has tremendously helped me out with my install, but unfortunately i am stuck on this issue i am now having and cant seem to find an answer.
After installing the alarm everything seemed to work just fine except the remote start. The parking light flashed 7 times indicating it was still in manual mode. So i tried to re-program the unit for an automatic transmission and while in the process i think i did it wrong and put the system in some kind of weird mode. I cant get it to go into any mode now except valet on/off. If i hold down the program button on the control panel after turning the ign to on/off with door open it doesn't do anything after holding it down even for over a few minutes. Unless it is, but the unit just isn't chirping/siren like it did the first time (it chirps if i arm/disarm or panic). I have been looking for any type of information that could help me out, but haven't come up with much. I tried resetting the unit through the steps shown in the manual, but that requires going through the programming which i cant get into. Ever disconnected my battery, and back up battery for a few hrs and that didn't help since the unit has everything stored in memory.
I thought maybe the system was not recognizing the door was open, but then again it was responding the first time, and i would assume if it wasn't recognizing the door open then i should have issues when i arm the system. I even tried opening different doors, or both driver and passenger doors and it didn't do anything. The first initial time going into programming my driver/passenger doors were open.
Process used for programming automatic:
1 ) turn car to ignition then off.
2) hold valet button until it chirps 3 times
3)Release valet push once release and then push and hold . On remote hit lock , it will chirp 2xs .
3) turn car to ignition then off and it should remote start
Vehicle: 2011 Toyota Tacoma Automatic
Alarm: Viper 5704v
Accessories: 506T Audio Sensor, 520T Backup battery, 507M Tilt sensor, X2 530T Window Automation System (530T not installed yet)
Remote start bypass: Directed Electronics Inc PKALL Xpress Kit Data Transponder
Wiring diagram used:
Sorry about format i copied it off the install guide i made.
Viper 5704 Install on 2011 Toyota Tacoma DCSB TRD Sport
Main Harness (H1), 6-pin connector from alarm to Tacoma
1: H1/1 RED (+) 12VDC CONSTANT INPUT
•12 VOLT CONSTANT      WHITE/ RED (+)      @ IGNITION SWITCH, (WHITE, 8-Pin Plug) Pin 5
2: H1/2 BLACK (-) CHASSIS GROUND
•Find strong ground point
3: H1/3 BROWN (+) SIREN OUTPUT
•Connect to siren included with alarm.
4: H1/5 WHITE PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT
•PARKING LIGHTS (+)      GREEN (+)      @ DASH FUSE BOX, (WHITE, 13-Pin Plug (D) Pin 10
5: H1/6 ORANGE (-) 500mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT
•Connect to accessories for alarm to ground when alarm is armed.
H2 Harness, 24-pin connector from alarm to Tacoma
1: H2/4 GREEN/ BLACK (-) 200mA OEM ALARM DISARM OUTPUT
•FACTORY ALARM DISARM GREEN/ BLACK (-) (Requires Double Pulse), NOTE #2 in DRIVERS KICK PANEL, (WHITE, 10-Pin Plug) Pin 8
2: H2/6 GREEN (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT (N/C* OR N/O)
•DOOR TRIGGER      GREEN/ YELLOW (-)@ DASH FUSE BOX, (WHITE, 18-Pin Plug (F) Pin 7
3: H2/8 BROWN / BLACK (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT
•HORN      GREEN/ RED (-)      @ DASH FUSE BOX, (WHITE, 18-Pin Plug(C) Pin 10
4: H2/16 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT
•BRAKE  BLUE (+)      @ DASH FUSE BOX, (WHITE, 13-Pin Plug (D) Pin 13
5: H2/17 GREY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (N/C OR N/O)
•Connect to hood pin included with alarm.
6: H2/18 VIOLET / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT
•Use later with relay for remote star.
7: H2/23 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT
•TACH      BLACK/ WHITE (AC)      @ DATA LINK Connector, (WHITE, 16-Pin Plug) Pin 9
Door Lock, 3-pin connector
1: BLUE (-) 500mA UNLOCK OUTPUT
•POWER UNLOCK   GRAY (TYPE B)      in DRIVERS KICK PANEL, (WHITE, 10-Pin Plug) Pin 7
2: GREEN (-) 500mA LOCK OUTPUT     
•POWER LOCK     BLUE/WHITE (TYPE B)      in DRIVERS KICK PANEL, (WHITE, 10-Pin Plug) Pin 6
Remote Start, (H3) 10-pin connector
connect H3-2, H3-6, H3-9 and H1-1 to +12V constant.
1:H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT
•IGNITION 1    BLACK/ RED (+)      @ IGNITION SWITCH, (WHITE, 8-Pin Plug) Pin 6
2: H3/2 RED / WHITE (87) FLEX RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)
•12v Constant
3: H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT
•ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 1   WHITE/ GREEN (+)   @ IGNITION SWITCH, (WHITE, 8-Pin Plug) Pin 2
4: H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL)
•STARTER 1      GREEN/ BLACK (+)      @ IGNITION SWITCH, (WHITE, 8-Pin Plug) Pin 7
5: H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL)
•Not used.
6: H3/6 RED IGNITION 1 +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)
•12v Constant
7: H3/7 PINK/WHITE (30) FLEX RELAY OUTPUT (car side of ign, acc or starter wire)
Connect H3-7 to Ignition2. Factory default programming sets this output as IGN2.
•IGNITION 2      BLUE / YELLOW (+)      @ IGNITION SWITCH, (WHITE, 8-Pin Plug) Pin 1
8: H3/8 not used
9: H3/9 RED / BLACK ACCESSORY/STARTER RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)
•12v constant.
PKALL Blue/White goes to Viper H2/9
Use pictures above for all H3 harness install.
Window Wiring Diagram
LF window up –Blue
LF window down-Blue/Black
RF Window up-Blue / YELLOW
RF Window Down-Black
LR Window up-GREEN / WHITE
LR Window Down-GREEN/ Red
RR Window Up-GREEN/ Black
RR Window Down-Green
Some sources used for install:
http://www.commandocaralarms.com/wiring/2009-2012/toyota/tacoma/2041.html
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~130004
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~132417
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/audio-video/252032-how-install-viper-5704-alarm-remote-start.html
howie ll 
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Posted: February 24, 2013 at 4:54 AM / IP Logged  
Open door, THEN:-
Process used for programming automatic:
1 ) turn car to ignition then off.
2) hold valet button until it chirps 3 times
3)Release valet push once release and then push and hold . On remote hit lock , it will chirp twice.
3) turn car to ignition then off and it should remote start
kjaikaran 
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Member spacespace
Joined: February 23, 2013
Location: Florida, United States
Posted: February 24, 2013 at 9:04 AM / IP Logged  
howie ll wrote:
Open door, THEN:-
Process used for programming automatic:
1 ) turn car to ignition then off.
2) hold valet button until it chirps 3 times
3)Release valet push once release and then push and hold . On remote hit lock , it will chirp twice.
3) turn car to ignition then off and it should remote start
Thats the same process i used as stated in my post. I didn't do it correctly at first and now the system doesn't do anything (no chirping, and no blinking led) when trying to program it even after holding down the button for a few minutes. The unit does chirp when arm/disarm and led does blink when system is armed. The only time I get any response from control panel is when I put the alarm in valet mode on/off and it indicates on the 2way.
I tried resetting all features and followed procedure through manual, but I'm not getting any response when doing it since I have to go through programming from the control center.
Thanks
kjaikaran 
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Posted: February 24, 2013 at 9:11 AM / IP Logged  
This is what I'm doing:
1) open door
2) turn ignition on then off
3) hold done control center program button until it chirps 3 times, but it doesn't ever chirp even after I have been holding it down for a few minutes. The first initial time I attempted after install I was getting the blinking led and chirps.
howie ll 
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Posted: February 24, 2013 at 10:35 AM / IP Logged  
Are you now in Valet mode? LED on constantly?
kjaikaran 
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Posted: February 24, 2013 at 10:51 AM / IP Logged  
howie ll wrote:
Are you now in Valet mode? LED on constantly?
No, valet mode is off. The only thing the control center is allowing me to do is turn valet on and off. My led is only on when the system is armed from the two way. As far as I have noticed when valet goes from on/off the lock pad on the two way either goes to empty or full, other than that I can't get anything to work through the control center as far as getting the remote start programmed or even trying to rest the whole thing. Other than that I can arm/disarm alarm just fine, the unit chirps for both and led blinks when armed.
After the install was completed I was getting responses from the control center as far as the system chirping to let me know what was going on, but I'm no getting that anymore.
howie ll 
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Posted: February 24, 2013 at 11:02 AM / IP Logged  
Only three more things I can think of:-
Pull the fuse at H1/1 for about 5 minutes.
Ground the green at H2/6.
Re-pair the remotes.
kjaikaran 
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Posted: February 24, 2013 at 12:42 PM / IP Logged  
howie ll wrote:
Only three more things I can think of:-
Pull the fuse at H1/1 for about 5 minutes.
Ground the green at H2/6.
Re-pair the remotes.
Thanks for the help
I grounded the h2/6 and now I can get into programming. I switched it to automatic, but now I'm getting 8 flashes for neutral switch. The neutral switch it just 2 wires for the on an off switch that plugs into the brain, and I have switched on and still giving me 8 flashes. This is really starting to annoy me.
howie ll 
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Posted: February 24, 2013 at 12:48 PM / IP Logged  
Make sure the BLACK/ white at H2/2 is properly grounded, cut the switch off and join the two ends together coming from the R/S. I've never seen the point of that switch.
N.B. Your unit isn't seeing a door switch TEST. OR do a voltage test between H1/1 and H1/2. Poor ground?
howie ll 
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Posted: February 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM / IP Logged  
Door trigger might be wrong, On Toyotas I always use the wire listed as dome supervision; dash fuse box, black 13 pin plug (1E), pin 9.
You've only connected AFIK to left hand front door so useless as an alarm anyway.
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