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Posted: June 12, 2013 at 6:45 PM / IP Logged  
I just installed a avital 4103 in my celica everything works great but when I r/s it then try to turn the key to run position it will grind. I seen something about a relay is needed is this what I need to do or is there a better way
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Posted: June 12, 2013 at 8:14 PM / IP Logged  
Use a relay. Follow DEI Tech Tip 1077, graciously posted by forum member Howie II.
Here is a link : https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=1060
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Posted: June 13, 2013 at 6:07 AM / IP Logged  
Do I want a constant power to pin 86 & 87 or switched? And for pin 85 am I using the pink wire from the 4 pin satellite harness from the 4103?
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Posted: June 13, 2013 at 7:19 AM / IP Logged  
Ok. 2000 Celica needs the Ignition wire isolated. This relay wiring will be for that vehicle with the
Avital 4103 system.
Relay Pin 87a to Celica cut BLACK/ Orange Ignition wire key switch side
Relay Pin 86 and 87 to +12V constant ( BLACK/ Red or White at Celica ignition harness )
Relay Pin 85 to Avital Pink (-) Ignition Output ( thin wire 4 Pin Satellite Harness )
Relay Pin 30 to Celica cut BLACK/ Orange Ignition wire vehicle side
Wired like this, the Avital's heavy Pink Ignition 1 wire won't be used to power the vehicles BLACK/ Orange
Ignition1 wire. It could be used to power the Celica's Ignition2 wire or you could continue to use the
Avital's Pink/White wire ( set to IGN2 ) for the Celica's Ignition2 wire. The relay will allow a normal key
start-up and a remote start-up but will isolate the Celica's IGN1 wire and prevent the starter grind
during key-take-over.
The bottom diagram in TechTip 1077 shows this best. Additionally, I would fuse the relay's +12V
constant power input at 30 Amps.
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Posted: June 13, 2013 at 7:48 AM / IP Logged  
One last thought and an important one. It would be advisable to add a relay coil quenching diode
to prevent possible damage to the Avital brain. You can obtain a 1N4004 or 1N4007 diode at Radio
Shack and add it to the external relay as shown at the end of this Pictorial Post :
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp~TID~133810~PN~1
While not mandatory, it is cheap insurance.
Soldering is fun!
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Posted: June 13, 2013 at 7:57 AM / IP Logged  
Thank you i think I may have a relay with the diode installed already from a system i removed

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