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kreg357 
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Posted: August 24, 2014 at 5:12 PM / IP Logged  

For me it's just some added security.  While I always use Scotch Super 33+ electrical tape, I have de-installed someone else's work that was a few years old and found the tape unraveling.  Not sure what brand they were using.  I have does upgrades to my own work that was over 5 years old and the tape still looked good enough that the tie wrap was over-kill.  The added tie wrap does both, secure the tape and add mechanical strength by keeping the soldered wire together. 

Just as good is Howard's method of applying tape over the entire bundle of ignition wires.  Howard even uses tape that is similar to factory tape on this outer layer to conceal the added equipment.  Stealth and security...   Splicing Multiple Wires To one - Page 2 -- posted image.

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zip ties are always a good idea though not always necessary. if i have to use low quality tape i always use a zip tie to keep it from rolling back off from heat or cold. i agree that a zip tie is good to add strength to a connection because the less the wire can vibrate the longer it will last. vibration is the only thing that will break a solder joint so the more support you add the longer your connection will stay good. although you be mad at yourself for using so many zip ties if you ever have to uninstall any of your work lol
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soundnsecurity wrote:
zip ties are always a good idea though not always necessary. if i have to use low quality tape i always use a zip tie to keep it from rolling back off from heat or cold. i agree that a zip tie is good to add strength to a connection because the less the wire can vibrate the longer it will last. vibration is the only thing that will break a solder joint so the more support you add the longer your connection will stay good. although you be mad at yourself for using so many zip ties if you ever have to uninstall any of your work lol
I'd rather cut a million ties than deal with the sticky goo left behind from tape! Thank god for Goo Gone! Splicing Multiple Wires To one - Page 2 -- posted image.
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Speaking of tape though...I usually use Super 33 on all my splices and other area where a quality tape counts. If it's just bundling wires or tidying things up, I'll use the cheap stuff. I can see why you would zip tie over the cheap stuff. Good tip!
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Kreg doesn't use cheap tape, he uses 33+ and still cable (zip) ties.
I use Scotch 88 on all of my joints where I've been unable to use shrink sleeving but I think 88 is a bit over the top.
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shafferny wrote:
soundnsecurity wrote:
zip ties are always a good idea though not always necessary. if i have to use low quality tape i always use a zip tie to keep it from rolling back off from heat or cold. i agree that a zip tie is good to add strength to a connection because the less the wire can vibrate the longer it will last. vibration is the only thing that will break a solder joint so the more support you add the longer your connection will stay good. although you be mad at yourself for using so many zip ties if you ever have to uninstall any of your work lol
I'd rather cut a million ties than deal with the sticky goo left behind from tape! Thank god for Goo Gone! Splicing Multiple Wires To one - Page 2 -- posted image.
yea i cant stand when somebody mummifies the wires in tape, usually cheap tape, that makes the wires sticky. id much rather use those tiny 4" zip ties. looks cleaner too IMO
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Posted: August 25, 2014 at 6:50 PM / IP Logged  

Time 3 on those installers that use a whole roll of cheap tape wrapping up their wire looms!!!  What a mess to remove!  Splicing Multiple Wires To one - Page 2 -- posted image.

On Chrysler products, where the factory looms are not sheathed, I use 1/4" pieces of heatshrink tube spaced every 3 inches along the loom to "bundle" the wires for the run to their destination.  Photo of a CS700-s and EVO-ALL set-up for a Dodge Ram install :

Splicing Multiple Wires To one - Page 2 -- posted image.

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almost exactly what i do except i use tape instead of heat shrink and ill tape most of the wires together when they get within 2 to 3 inches from the alarm brain so that there is nothing hanging loose from the brain. if i have a large wire harness to run and depending on how the factory wiring looks i might run a spiral band of tape along the whole harness but thats as far as it goes for me when wrapping wires in tape.
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