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03 LR Discovery with 4105v Viper


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dayoff 
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Posted: January 08, 2016 at 7:15 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote dayoff
Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me out that may be familiar with the 4105 Viper system... I'm trying to install simply the keyless entry portion, with no horn/lights/remote start/etc.
I looked at the diagram and see a 9 pin 'main harness' on the viper, there's Pin 8/BLACK/ Ground, and a 3 pin door lock connector on the viper with a Blue(-)Unlock and Green(+)Lock, but which viper harness wires would be used for constant(battery) +12 and accessory(ignition) +12?
There are some other harnesses marked 'remote start' and a satellite 4 pin harness...but I don't see anything simply marked as these like I typically do from the quick reference install guides.
Only other item I'll need to sort out is the 1 pin lock/unlock on the Rover, I'm not looking to keep the factory alarm, so i'm not concerned about setting/disarming that unless it's required for the lock operation.
Thanks,
Pete
dayoff 
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Posted: January 08, 2016 at 7:33 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote dayoff
Here's some detail on the existing harnesses on the viper and possible connection points for this one function...
Viper main harness, 9 pin connector
1 Lt GREEN/ black (-) factory alarm disarm.
2 grn/white.       (-) fact alarm rearm.
3 yellow. (+) ignition out (to alarm)
4 WHITE/ blue.      (-) activation input.
5 orange. (-) ground when locked/anti grind.
6 brown (-) horn out.
7 RED / white.       (-) trunk release.
8 black. Ground. **Ground
9 white.  (+/-) light flash output.
Viper door lock 3 pin
1 blue. (-) unlock. **To Rover central lock wire..diode?
2 blank
3 green.  (-) lock. **To Rover central lock Wire..diode?
       
Viper remote start 6 pin
1 red.    (+)(30a) high current 12v input. ** To Constant 12v?
2 pink/white. Output to 2nd inhibition/acc circuit.
3 red.    (+)(30a) high current 12v input.
4 orange. Output to acc circuit.
5 purple. Output to starter.
6 pink.   Output to primary ingnition.
Satellite harness 4 pin
Omit most likely?
Remote start 5 pin
1 BLACK/ white. (-) neutral safety input.
2 viloet/white tach.
3 brown.       (+) brake shutdown input.
4 gray.        (-) hood pin switch.
5 blue/white. (-) defogger.
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Posted: January 08, 2016 at 8:33 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote geepherder
http://readyremote.com/main.asp?action=select&yr=5760&product=Remote%20Start&make=Land%20Rover&model=Discovery%20II
howie ll 
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Posted: January 09, 2016 at 5:38 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
Bypass etc? Electrics are identical to contemporary Volvo XC60/90 .
dayoff 
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Posted: January 09, 2016 at 7:33 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote dayoff
Thanks for that link! - that's very helpful for the vehicle side, but I'm not clear on the viper side on that second post.. which specific ones are needed for constant and ignition power? (if ignition is even needed for a keyless only setup?)
Pete
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Posted: January 09, 2016 at 7:37 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
Have you even read the link you were given?
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Posted: January 09, 2016 at 7:41 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
Sorry, I should have read your first post.
On the six pin, only the PINK ignition VERY VERY important to connect it.
By the way if you're only doing keyless, why not a DEI 211 or similar K/E only?
Much cheaper.
dayoff 
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Posted: January 09, 2016 at 6:44 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote dayoff
Thanks - Yeah, it's super cold at the moment, and I'm in a bit of a hurry to get this in so we can lock the doors again :) My goal is to perhaps get the remote start going at a later date, but for $58 and the nicer remotes/range, I thought it would be good to work with. The complexity of the extra stuff is sorta complicating matters, though.
So you're saying the pink on the viper (ignition output) is actually the ignition on +12v supply? Wouldn't I still need a battery sourced 12v to power things....perhaps one of the red connections?
Pete
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Posted: January 10, 2016 at 2:28 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote dayoff
Hmm... so far so good, but the locks only lock with the remote. they wont unlock. When you press lock or unlock with the remote, it locks the doors and flashes the hazard.
Currently I have:
Viper main harness, 9 pin connector
1 Lt GREEN/ black (-) factory alarm disarm. NOT CONNECTED
2 grn/white.       (-) fact alarm rearm. NOT CONNECTED
3 yellow. (+) ignition out (to alarm) NOT CONNECTED
4 WHITE/ blue.      (-) activation input. NOT CONNECTED
5 orange. (-) ground when locked/anti grind. NOT CONNECTED
6 brown (-) horn out. NOT CONNECTED
7 RED / white.       (-) trunk release. NOT CONNECTED
8 black. Ground. Connected to Ground
9 white.  (+/-) light flash output. Connected to Hazard circuit
Viper door lock 3 pin
1 blue. (-) unlock. **To Rover central Unlock wire
2 blank
3 green.  (-) lock. **To Rover central Lock wire
       
Viper remote start 6 pin
1 red.    (+)(30a) high current 12v input. ** To Battery 12v
2 pink/white. Output to 2nd inhibition/acc circuit. NOT CONNECTED
3 red.    (+)(30a) high current 12v input. NOT CONNECTED
4 orange. Output to acc circuit. NOT CONNECTED
5 purple. Output to starter. NOT CONNECTED
6 pink.   Output to primary ingnition. NOT CONNECTED
Satellite harness 4 pin
NOT CONNECTED
Remote start 5 pin
1 BLACK/ white. (-) neutral safety input. NOT CONNECTED
2 viloet/white tach. NOT CONNECTED
3 brown.       (+) brake shutdown input. NOT CONNECTED
4 gray.        (-) hood pin switch. NOT CONNECTED
5 blue/white. (-) defogger. NOT CONNECTED
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Posted: January 10, 2016 at 3:45 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mscguy
Well, you connected the white parking light output to the hazard lights, so that's why they flash. I'm not sure if that was intentional or not.
What color are the vehicle wires you connected to the lock and unlock, and where are they?
Did you test them first?
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