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penex6 
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Posted: January 10, 2016 at 4:59 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote penex6
Okay, so the write-up was accurate, but this is the first I've heard confirming the RED / white wire tying into the H1 red, big awg red,& RED / black.
   10 pin big pink to ignition (key on hot surely). Therefore the small pink from Dball T harness can tie to the pink also at switch with the big pink from 10 pin.
     I agree completely on 5901&5704 being obsolete. The harnesses compared to my 5706 are configured totally different. Thank you Howie
    Smokeman, I was about to ask you if it was remote start only. Yes that's the conclusion I've come to is that hood status is definitely monitored through the system. I've read that dome supervision and park lights are supported. I've read that they are not supported... Hmmm. I guess I'll just have to find out on that one. I don't want the problem one member had. His approach lights (headlights on when unlocked remotely)would not come on after 5706 install. Park lamps only. I definitely don't want to lose that feature.
    I'm going into my steering column now so any advice/tips/information is sure welcome!
With my particular vehicle and components I will be posting an in depth install how to. Maybe someone will benefit from it.
Howie/smoke,
      Thanks and keep it coming if u think of anything please.
howie ll 
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Posted: January 11, 2016 at 5:25 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
5704 is obsolete but the looms and wiring apart from antenna/control centre and it's feeder cable are identical.
All the brains are the same.
Known as 5X04, you should see that stamped in a corner.
penex6 
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Posted: January 12, 2016 at 9:30 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote penex6
Hey Howie or smoke,
   I'm down to a 3 wire question, and just can't seem to find hard evidence.
   Howie, I know you said to solder red,RED / black,and red white together. This is on this is on the large gauge wire harness.(called H3 on everything viper has with a published manual but not the 5706) (I say that not to confuse others reading this for reference help. not you Howie or smoke)
   RED / white is ignition2 and from everything I can dig up nothing elaborates on flex relay input. I'm confused if this is for a add-inn relay or a relay in the viper system or on the vehicle. Some info says wire it up some doesn't. Even if it's not needed(not questioning your advice Howie) if it's hooked up anyway would it even be an issue? Needed or not?
     -5706 Large gauge pin 8 orange wire: "accessory output(+)"
In the 5901 install write up its instructed to hook up orange from viper to the brown ignition wire "pin 6" in vehicle at switch. Mostly mentioned on this is climate control. I only have a basic AC/heat system and need clarification on if it's needed and would it hurt to hook it to brown at switch. What exactly does climate control-the 5706- and my LT package Silverado have in common? When I hear climate control I think of dual zone fancy climate control.
The third wire in question is pink large gauge wire. Even with T harness using factory plug ins it appears this wire is covered. "Should be" harness to DBALL to 5706.
   If this is redundant I apologize. Could someone please elaborate on these three wires and how they affect my install.
RED / white,orange, and pink large gauge wires. That is all that I have left in the way of install questions.
   Thanks a lot guys
howie ll 
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Posted: January 13, 2016 at 3:10 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
If the DB-ALL 2 instructions for that vehicle don't call for them don't use them.
penex6 
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Posted: January 13, 2016 at 2:02 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote penex6
Fair enough. It seems I severely over complicated this, but no worries if everything turns out okay.
I kept wondering about that Howie every time I looked at the Dball install info. The diagram just shows a black box labeled "remote start". I get that since directed can't possibly know what type or brand remote start/security system your installing. When looking at the diagram the only wires to hook to remote start module are: pink(+) ignition output from Dball T-harness to (+) remote start ignition input. I'll call it the H3 harness on viper module(10 pin large wires) had the a described ignition input, although the red12V fused wire also mentioned ignition input. RED / white and RED / black were inputs too but either for flex relay or ignition 2. I was able to find that my 09 Silverado did not have an ignition 2 option. I'm not even sure what ignition 2 means.
       
       Okay so pink to R/S ignition input, a 12V and ground connection, and parking lights hooked to remote start. Literally 4 wires. I realize that we are talking R/S only when looking at the Dball install sheet. Also you've got the plug in connections to the 5706, sensor,d2d, ect... It's the alarm side of the 5706 that keeps me asking you about these large gauge wires. Red, RED / white, RED / black, pink, and orange.   I also considered that since the vehicle is remote start ready needing only a Dball to actually have a working remote start, but a security system is also something I'm having to consider. Will the Dball communicate everything it needs to see or do these large wires need a direct connect?
    I know that sometimes you just have to try something while testing and I'm not asking to have my hand held. I've been a mechanic/machinist/weekend warrior car audio enthusiast for over 20 years. So I know when I need to ask questions rather than zap some electrical components in my vehicle.
     Seriously though, it seems realistic but not connecting any wires from the 5706's 10 pin harness is what you suggest?
     Other than the 4 connections listed above you have of course your three CAN connections at OBDII plug.
   Any words of reassuring wisdom on my ramble above Howie?
   Thank you sir!
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