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1967ls2 
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Posted: February 18, 2016 at 1:08 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote 1967ls2
I understand that the remote keyless entry door lock system supplied a negative output while the other supplies a positive output during one operation. There are two wires leading to the actuator (Blue and Green), when the doors are unlocked the green wire has power and the blue wire is negative. When I lock the doors, the blue wire has power and green wire is negative.
The remote keyless entry system is from Klassic Keyless. http://www.klassickeyless.com/
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Posted: February 18, 2016 at 1:13 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote 1967ls2
Correct. The remote keyless entry system is from Klassic Keyless. It came with the door lock actuators, wiring, computer control module and two remotes.
I will get the installation instructions and post up.
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Posted: February 18, 2016 at 1:23 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote the12volt
I just took a peek at the keyless entry system on the site you posted and it appears the receiver connects directly to the actuators to minimize wiring (all in one unit, err). If this is the case, you will need to add relays to get the signals you need and isolate them from the actuators or you will have to see if you can solder leads directly to one side of each relay coil for lock and unlock signals inside the unit.
I'll wait for you to post the manual before we move on, but now I'm pretty sure I understand the confusion. The leads appear to be going directly to the actuators from the remote keyless entry system in the photo on their site.
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Posted: February 18, 2016 at 1:45 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote 1967ls2
I requested a copy of the Klassic Keyless installation manual for the keyless entry system from Klassic Keyless just now.
I believe I still have the installation manual at home so if I don't receive it by email today I will dig it up tonight when I get home.
Yes, the receiver connects directly to the actuators. I'll post the manual once I get it.
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Posted: February 18, 2016 at 1:55 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote the12volt
Since they are coming directly from the remote keyless entry module, I won't need it. I'll draw up a diagram for you in a bit.
Do you also have a switch (or switches) in the vehicle to control the door locks?
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Posted: February 18, 2016 at 2:02 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote 1967ls2
No there are no switches to control anything. I only have the remote to unlock and lock the doors. The remote also controls the trunk lock.
I would like to have a button somewhere in the car to lock and unlock the doors and trunk as opposed to using the remote even when I am in the car. I don't think it would be too difficult to wire it up down the road though.
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Posted: February 18, 2016 at 3:51 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote 1967ls2
Awesome, thank you so much for the diagram! Any suggestions as to where I should purchase the SPDT relays?
Right after the diodes you have a green and blue wire that says "(+) from switch." Are these supposed to go to a switch that locks and unlocks the doors when in the car?
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Posted: February 18, 2016 at 3:56 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote the12volt
I had posted a diagram earlier, but realized the outputs of the remote keyless entry system most likely rest at ground, so here is an updated diagram.
Push Button Start, Reverse Polarity Lock Actuator - Page 2 -- posted image.
You will need three SPDT relays. Disconnect the actuators from the keyless entry module and connect the wires from the actuators, from the keyless entry module, and to the push button start system as shown above. The keyless entry system will no longer be connected directly to each actuator.
This will provide the positive unlock and negative lock signals to the push button start system from the keyless entry module.
If you add a door lock switch in the future, you will need two additional relays to isolate the door lock switch from the keyless entry module and to prevent it from interfering with the push button start system. When you're ready for that, let know and I'll draw another diagram.
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Posted: February 18, 2016 at 4:00 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote the12volt
1967ls2 wrote:
Awesome, thank you so much for the diagram! Any suggestions as to where I should purchase the SPDT relays?
Right after the diodes you have a green and blue wire that says "(+) from switch." Are these supposed to go to a switch that locks and unlocks the doors when in the car?
Ignore the first diagram I posted with the diodes and inputs from the future door lock switch. See the post above.
You can find a link at the bottom of this page to purchase relays. https://www.the12volt.com/relays/relays.asp
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Posted: February 18, 2016 at 4:08 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote 1967ls2
Just reviewed. The second diagram looks less complicated. I agree that getting the system to function properly first would be best then following up later to add a physical switch inside the car to lock/unlock can follow.
Do you have any suggestions as to where to purchase the SPDT relays? I just want to make sure I order the correct ones and that I order ones that are reputable and wont die after a short period of time.
Thank you so much for all of your help with this. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it. The company I purchased the push button start system (innovative ignition system) assured me before the purchase that they were there to assist along the way with all the questions I had and they also assured me the system I purchased would work fine with the keyless entry system I had already installed. Obviously there is more work that needs to be done.
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