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Camry 2017, Viper 5706V w/DBALL2 Problem


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baby007 
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Posted: January 26, 2017 at 1:46 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote baby007
Hello,
I have a Toyota Camry 2017 without Smart Start and Viper 5706V with Dball2 module
I am using D2D and this is my wiring:
VIPER
Main Harness, White 6-pin connector
01.RED             (+)12VDC Constant Input @ Ignition Switch Harness,Pin 5,GREEN
02.BLACK        (-) Chassis Ground @ Grounding Screw
03.BROWN      (+) Siren Output @ Viper Siren
04.WHITE/ BROWN   Parking Light Isolation @ Not used
05.WHITE      Parking Light Output @ Not Sure
Door Lock, 3-Pin Connector
01.BLUE             (-) Unlock Output @ Not Used
02.NC
03.GREEN        (-) Lock Output @ Not Used
Remote Start Harness, 10-Pin
01.NC
02.RED / BLACK     (+)12VDC @ Ignition Switch Harness,Pin 5,GREEN
03.PINK/BLACK    Not Used
04.PINK/WHITE    (+)Ignition 2 @ Ignition Switch Harness,Pin 1, PINK
05.RED           (+)12VDC @ Ignition Switch Harness,Pin 5,GREEN
06.GREEN        (+)Starter Input @ Ignition Switch Harness,Pin 7, BLUE (Key Side)
07.VIOLET        (+)Starter Output @ Ignition Switch Harness,Pin 7, BLUE (Car Side)
08.ORANGE        Accessory Output @ Not Used
09.RED / WHITE     (+)12VDC @ Ignition Switch Harness,Pin 5,GREEN
10.PINK          (+)Ignition 1 @ Ignition Switch Harness,Pin 6,BLACK
Auxiliary 24-Pin Connector
01 PINK/WHITE    (-) 200mA Ignition 2/Flex Output @ Not Used
02 BLUE/WHITE    (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT @ Not Used
03 RED / WHITE     (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT @ Not Used
04 BLACK / YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT OUTPUT @ Not Used
05 DARK BLUE     (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT @ Not Used
06 WHITE/ BLACK   (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT @ Not Used
07 WHITE/ VIOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT @ Not Used
08 ORANGE / BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT @ Not Used
09 GRAY          (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (NC OR NO) @ Not Used
10 BLUE          (-) TRUNK PIN/INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/C OR N/O) @ Not Used
11 WHITE/ BLUE    ACTIVATION INPUT @ Not Used
12 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT @ Not Used
13 BLACK/ WHITE   (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY /PARKING BRAKE INPUT @ Chassis Ground
14 GREEN/ BLACK   (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM OUTPUT @ Not Used
15 GREEN        (-) DOOR INPUT @ Not Used
16 BROWN / BLACK   (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT @ Not Used
17 PINK          (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT @ Not Used
18 VIOLET        (+) DOOR INPUT @ Not Used
19 VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT @ Not Used
20 BROWN        (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT @ Not Used
21 VIOLET / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT @ Pin 85 of Ext Relay
22 GRAY/BLACK    (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT @ Not Used
23 ORANGE        (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT @ Not Used
24 GREEN / WHITE   (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM ARM OUTPUT @ Not Used
External Relay
Pin 85 @ Viper Pin 21.VIOLET / YELLOW
Pin 86 and 87 @ Ignition Switch Harness, Pin 4, Yellow (through 7.5A Fuse)
Pin 30 @ Ignition Switch Harness, Pin 3, LT GREEN
Pin 87a @ Not Used
General Purpose Diode across 85 and 86 with band toward 86
Xpresskit DBALL2
I follow xpresskit install diagram using D2D and connect only these wires:
14-Pin Harness, BLUE
3.TAN/BLACK
4.TAN
10.ORANGE / RED
11.YELLOW/RED
12-Pin Harness, RED
10.YELLOW/BLACK
11.ORANGE / BLACK
10-Pin Harness, BLACK
Not Used
4-Pin, WHITE
D2D to Viper
Remote start function works fine
Here are the problems:
1/ Somehow, Viper remotes only arm/disarm but don't lock/unlock.
OEM remotes lock/unlock just fine.
But if I remote start and while the engine is running, I can use Viper remotes to lock/unlock the doors.
2/ When I remote start, Viper locks all doors automatically. Is that normal behavior?
3/ No light flashes when arming/disarming. Should I connect wire 05.Parking Light Output?
Any idea would be great.
Thanks
baby007 
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Posted: January 26, 2017 at 1:51 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote baby007
Here is the Dball2 Diagram
Camry 2017, Viper 5706V w/DBALL2 Problem -- posted image.
baby007 
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Posted: January 26, 2017 at 10:30 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote baby007
Any input would be appreciated
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Posted: January 27, 2017 at 1:49 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote soundnsecurity
i can see no reason why it would work with the car running and not while off. this sounds like a firmware issue and that can happen on new cars when they first come out. the "simple" solution would be to try using W2W with the lock and unlock wires directly with the bypass OR interface just the locks of the car manually with the vipers wires.
baby007 
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Posted: January 27, 2017 at 2:18 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote baby007
Do I need to unplug the D2D harness and go completely W2W like all the dotted lines shown in the image above? OR just for lock/unlock wires?
baby007 
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Posted: January 27, 2017 at 5:14 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote baby007
Quick update: connecting lock and unlock wires from Viper to dball yields no result. Viper remote still can't unlock or lock, but arming only.
I also check the signal of lock and unlock wires with my multimeter and confirm there were locking pulses when arming with Viper remote.
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Posted: January 27, 2017 at 7:44 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote beegbie
The db-all (and any other module) uses the can bus wires to control the door locks while the car is running and the rda wire when the car is off. This is your problem, the rda. Also, park lights through data is hit or miss. Just hardwire it from the remote start to the car.
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Posted: January 27, 2017 at 11:40 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote baby007
Hi all,
Thanks all for your help.
So like beegbie said, it was exactly a loosed RDA wire. As a result, I spent my afternoon soldering all the connections. No more T-tap for me. That fixes the remote problem.
I still have another problem related to the Parking Light Output. So I hardwired it from the Viper to Pin 30 of the white 30-Pin Plug which is on top of fuse box. Now, parking light flashes when remote starting but whenever I put my light into auto mode, my high beam is ON together with low beam.
There is one thing I am not sure about is the color of the 30th wire on that plug. On Bulldog site, it's BLACK wire, which is the same as my car now, while in the electronic repair manual I am using, it's a WHITE one. Although both sources show that 30th wire runs from the 18th wire of the headlight 20 Pin plug. Camry 2017, Viper 5706V w/DBALL2 Problem -- posted image.
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Posted: January 28, 2017 at 2:13 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote beegbie
Wire color charts are nice but this is why they should not be trusted. Use a meter or a test light and find the wire that is at ground when the switch is in the auto position then cut it and wire the ORANGE / red yellow/red to it.
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Posted: January 28, 2017 at 9:11 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote baby007
So now things' working fine.
Only a small issue left. How do I get the viper to unlock only driver door like OEM remote? Right now it unlocks 4 doors (like viper sent 2 unlocks pulses). I already selected 1 unlock/lock pulse for viper and 'Driver Priority' option for DBALL2 but it doesn't help.
Also, anyone has experience running wires through firewall for Camry? I have a 2004 camry and the wire grommet was like right there on the right corner of engine bay. Not with this 2017. I saw a grommet but it's all the way on the passenger side though.

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