after my screw up, hornet 563t, 98 ram

No sir but I will tomorrow and post the results

Ok so I checked the purple and the blue wires.... The blue one was at 0 with nothing initialized after initializing it went to .05, the purple wire was at 11.7 with nothing initialized and went down to 10.5 after initializing the remote start.

The remote start ribbon harness has ground controlled (-) inputs to activate the XCR relays - Check for ground inputs @ the purple wire first. XCR should have 12v input @ the green wire.______ ______ ______ ______ ______ ______ ______ This ribbon harness connects to the relay satellite. BLUE (-) 200 mA STATUS OUTPUT ORANGE/BLACK (-) ANTIGRIND/GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT PURPLE (-) 200 mA STARTER RELAY TURN-ON ORANGE (-) 200 mA ACCESSORY RELAY TURN-ON PINK (-) 200 mA IGNITION RELAY TURN-ON YELLOW (+) IGNITION INPUT TO ALARM PINK/WHITE 200 mA (-) PROGRAMMABLE IGN2/ACC2 RELAY 1 TURN ON

Ok I think that's kind of where we're at... The purple wire never turns to ground it only drops from 11.7 to 10.5

Didn't we know that 2 pages ago?

No I was saying that because the post just right before your reply was talking about the purple and blue wires on the harness you're referring to I think. I wasn't being a smart ass just wanted you to know that's kind of the area I was working in. So I'm guessing the thing to figure out is why the purple wire never gets a ground signal.

It doesn't get, it gives out a low current ground to activate the starter relay in the relay box as as shown in one of your photos. You should expect a ground on that and a plus 12V+ on the thick purple.

Ok well that thin purple wire has 11.7 on it and when activated it drops to 10.5 so what does that point to

OK so here is what I get on each of those wires on that ribbon.              inactive        Active BLUE (-) 200 mA STATUS OUTPUT 0              .6 ORANGE/BLACK (-) ANTIGRIND/GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT          0              .8 PURPLE (-) 200 mA STARTER RELAY TURN-ON       12             10.5 ORANGE (-) 200 mA ACCESSORY RELAY TURN-ON     12             .4 PINK (-) 200 mA IGNITION RELAY TURN-ON        12             .4 YELLOW (+) IGNITION INPUT TO ALARM            00 PINK/WHITE 200 mA (-) PROGRAMMABLE IGN2/ACC2 RELAY 1 TURN ON 12              8.3            

That post didnt show up like it was typed in the box but the first number is what it is inactive and the second number is after activation