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2008 Hummer H3, ADS AL-CA


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Posted: October 28, 2019 at 9:06 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote Velocity Motors
You have to open and close to wake up BCM, but try to program with doors closed tomorrow.
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Posted: October 28, 2019 at 9:26 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote specs
Will do Jeff, thanks for your time on this.....still wondering about this lack of tach programming, maybe should just disconnect and go voltage sense? Al
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Posted: October 29, 2019 at 1:05 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote specs
No luck with programming with doors closed.....seems like I've created another problem after trying a reset on the AutoStart. The module seems to be locked up, led on the antenna flashing rapidly, can enter into and out of valet mode with ignition key procedure but won't respond to remotes after programming them (although the remotes act like they've paired properly). Also can't reset module anymore, will enter programming mode with hoodpin but wont issue 8 flashes with repeated input from brake pedal. Al
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Posted: October 29, 2019 at 8:10 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote specs
Further to my above reply.....unit seemingly stuck in remote programming mode. Status led on antenna continues to flash rapidly after going through remote programming, instead of going off with final push of antenna button. Remotes confirm successful pairing, but module does not confirm receipt of any commands from them. Is there such a thing as a hard reset of the brain for Directed products? Al
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Posted: October 29, 2019 at 8:50 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote geepherder
This may not do anything, but I've had luck disconnecting unplugging everything and jumping the constant and ground pins together.
My ex once told me I have a perfect face for radio.
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Posted: October 29, 2019 at 10:15 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote specs
Thanks geep, worth a shot at this point....assuming you mean one of the 12v constants on main 6 pin harness to ground pin on 5 pin harness? Al
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Posted: October 30, 2019 at 11:02 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote specs
Tried your suggestion geep….no luck, module remained in a "locked" state with the status led on the antenna flashing rapidly. Swapped in another known good module, antenna, remote combo that I had (also AutoStart, so harnesses the same). Powered up fine, learned remote and programmed options.....re-programmed ALCA and tried r/s. Unit powers up ignition/accessory, accessory drops out temporarily, but doesn't crank.....stays powered on as if it's running for a short time and then shuts down, does this 3 times. Passlock light on the whole time unit is powered up so I think it's definitely not getting the correct resistance value from the ALCA. Everytime I reprogram the ALCA, it seems to go as it should, 3 seconds in each of the 4 key positions and then back to run.....light on ALCA at this point cycles quickly between green and red finally going green for a couple seconds and then off. During the r/s routine, when it thinks vehicle is running....light on ALCA flashes green in groups of 3. With key sitting in ignition at off, it will remote start fine with no passlock light so again I'm certain this resistance value is the missing part of the puzzle! Also tried an AL-DL module I had around programmed with same firmware....just to make sure it wasn't the ALCA that was the problem. Behaved exactly the same after programming any advice on where to go from here appreciated....Al
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Posted: October 31, 2019 at 5:19 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
I think I remember something about Passlock2 problems with these vehicles
being real finicky about where the bypass module got its' ground from.
Being as you are going W2W, connect the ADS Ground input to the vehicles
Passlock2 ground reference wire.
Do a Factory Reset on the ADS bypass module, set the W2W Mode and try
programming again with the 3 seconds waits at each step. I used to use
an ADS DL on these vehicle with good results. Haven't done one in a while.
For your Tach issue, that seems to be a R/S problem. I typically use
Compustar umits and they seem to be able to detect pretty weak Tach signals.
Not familiar with the AutoStart units as they are most available in Canada.
Being as the ECM controls the engine crank and starting, I would typically
run in Tach Mode or with a Fixed Crank Output of 1 second and let the
vehicles ECM handle the rest. I'm not a fan or Virtual Tach or Voltage
monitoring.
Soldering is fun!
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Posted: October 31, 2019 at 9:42 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote specs
Thanks kreg, I'll give that suggestion a try....any ideas on possibility of hard resetting the original module I had installed? Is there such a thing on Directed r/s systems? Tried plugging it in again last night and it just immediately reverts to the rapid flashing status led as if it were in remote pairing mode and can't get it to exit.....Al
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Posted: October 31, 2019 at 10:33 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
If you're talking about the ADS AL-CA, you can re-flash it with the GM4 firmware
to clear / reset it. Or even flash another firmware on it and then back to GM4.
Just beware that iDatalink keeps track of the number of times a module is flashed
and the different firmware's loaded. There is a limit that triggers some concerns
from them. I used to do a lot of on-site installs and would always flash a backup
bypass module to bring with me and if I always kept the same bypass module as a
backup it would get flashed too many times for their liking.
I've never had any issues using either DBI or ADS flavor of firmware when going
W2W. My usual routine is to do the Firmware flash, then a module reset, then
the Installation Mode selection and lock in and finally the vehicle programming
procedure. I have a +12V power supply with alligator clips to do that process
on the bench as I prep the R/S system prior to install.
If you're talking about the R/S unit doing a rapid flashing status, probably
can't help much there. I'm not familiar with AutoStart. My typical brands
are Compustar and Prestige.
Soldering is fun!
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