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Python 4105P Remote Start, 1995 Subaru Impreza


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mjm4jc 
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Posted: December 26, 2021 at 9:14 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mjm4jc
Hello everyone,
New to the forum. Thanks for having me. I just installed a python 4105P remote start/keyless entry on my 95 Impreza LX wagon. Because of the car's age (95), it's a pretty simple installation. Anyway, once everything was all wired, I started the car with the remote. It worked as it should. But when I got in the car the other day and put the key in the ignition to power up my accessories (not starting it), white smoke starting coming from the control unit. I'm pretty certain that it's wired correctly. Any insight you can give is much appreciated!
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Posted: December 27, 2021 at 1:29 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote davep.
If smoke came out of the control module, it is most certainly NOT "wired correctly".
I'd begin by looking at the all the wires' insulation for bubbling or damage caused by a short to ground, caused by an incorrect connection. If you find a couple of damaged/burned wires, trace them to the car's wiring, and ascertain the wire's function for both the car and the module. You should be able to figure out where the mistake was made, and correct it before installing a replacement module.
mjm4jc 
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Posted: December 27, 2021 at 12:02 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mjm4jc
Thank you DaveP. Good advice. I was re-thinking my install and do remember that when I was splicing in the brake stop wire into the brake switch wire, the brake switch wire touched metal and sparked for a few seconds before I was able to grab it and move it away. Definitely a brain fart on my part b/c I had the battery disconnected the entire time except for this part of the install. I don't think this is the cause of my problem here, but I'm not an expert wither. I will check the wires to see if there is any damage.
mjm4jc 
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Posted: December 29, 2021 at 9:01 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mjm4jc
Update: I bought another control unit yesterday at one of the local dealers. I couldn't pass it up for $15.00. I didn't connect the new unit yet. I removed the old unit and took the cover off to look at the electronics. I didn't see anything that would indicate a bad or incorrect wiring. Nothing was burned, resistors and capacitors were normal....no bulging or burn marks. All the wires going into the ECU had no indication of burning or faulty wiring. Two things are very odd however. The horn fuse blew during the initial install process. It doesn't appear that the horn and brake lights are on the same circuit. If so, that would make sense, as I did short out the brake wire for a few seconds when trying to wire that in. I do not have the horn wire even connected. The other odd thing is that the left side headlight comes on full bright, and the right side very dim with key on and the light switch off. When I disconnect the 9-pin connector, the headlights work as normal. This issue seems to point to the 9-pin harness. But I am only using one wire from that 9-pin harness. It's the white wire with the 10A fuse that's labeled "light flash output." I have that wired to the parking light wire and that actually works. When I use the unlock/lock on the keyless entry the park lights flash. Another point to note here is that when I hooked up the original control unit the second time and with the key on, I did notice once again white vapors rising up from the unit. It is not doing it anymore, and the car starts with the remote as it should. The keyless entry works as it should. The only thing I did different was I installed the little parking light jumper. Before doing that, I was not getting the park lights to flash when locking/unlocking the doors. Could not having the park light jumper installed have caused the smoke and burning smell? If so, it makes sense. But I still can't figure out the headlight dilemma. I don't want to hook up the new control unit until I solve this one. Your insight is much appreciated.
mjm4jc 
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Posted: December 29, 2021 at 9:08 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mjm4jc
I did confirm that the horn and brake lights are on the same fuse. So at least the horn fuse blowing dilemma is solved.
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Posted: December 29, 2021 at 8:48 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mjm4jc
Update 2: I hooked up the new remote start control unit and the same thing happened. White smoke was coming out of it. I seemed to have narrowed it down to the heavy gauge purple wire. I disconnected it, and powered everything up. There wasn't any more smoke. The heavy gauge purple starter wire is going to the correct wire on the ignition harness. That's why it works as should. I just can't figure out why the white smoke for the life of me. Also, with the purple wire disconnected, the funky headlight dilemma goes away. I'm really stumped.
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Posted: December 31, 2021 at 8:57 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
I'm in agreement with DaveP on this one. Having installed a bunch of 4105's (Avital and Viper) over the years, white smoke is something I've never encountered. I really doubt you got two bad units. You are correct in that the 1995 Imprezza is very straight forward to add a R/S to, no bypass module and only 3 ignition wires. Power locks are a bit of a chore.
Rather than buying a few dozen 4105 controllers, perhaps a very thorough review of the actual wiring would be the best course of action right now. Below is a text of the 4105 harnesses. If you fill that in, the forum members might be able to see an issue and save you further cost in parts and possible damage to your car.
Viper 4105 -------------------------------------------> 1995 Imprezza
Main 9 Pin
1 LIGHT GREEN/BLACK (-) FACTORY ALARM DISARM
2 GREEN/WHITE (-) FACTORY REARM
3 YELLOW (+) IGNITION OUT (TO ALARM)
4 WHITE/BLUE (-) ACTIVATION INPUT
5 ORANGE (-) GROUND WHEN LOCKED
6 BROWN (-) HORN OUTPUT
7 RED/WHITE (-) TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT
8 BLACK GROUND
9 WHITE (+/-) LIGHT FLASH
R/S 5 Pin
1 BLACK/WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT
2 VIOLET/WHITE (AC) TACHOMETER INPUT WIRE
3 BROWN (+) BRAKE SWITCH SHUTDOWN WIRE
4 GRAY (-) HOOD PINSWITCH SHUTDOWN WIRE
5 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS/REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT
4-pin satellite harness diagram
1 BLUE (-) STATUS OUTPUT
2 ORANGE (-) ACCESSORY OUTPUT
3 PURPLE (-) STARTER OUTPUT
4 PINK (-) IGNITION OUTPUT
Heavy gauge 6 Pin
1 RED (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12V INPUT
2 PINK/WHITE (+) PROGRAMMABLE OUTPUT FOR ACCESSORY OR IGNITION
3 RED (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12 INPUT
4 ORANGE (+) (30 AMP) OUTPUT TO ACCESSORY CIRCUIT
5 PURPLE (+) (30 AMP) OUTPUT TO STARTER CIRCUIT
6 PINK (+) (30 AMP) OUTPUT TO IGNITION CIRCUIT
Door lock harness, 3-pin connector
1 BLUE (-) UNLOCK OUTPUT
2 EMPTY NOT USED
3 GREEN (-) LOCK OUTPUT
Soldering is fun!
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Posted: December 31, 2021 at 12:10 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote catback
mjm4jc wrote:
But I am only using one wire from that 9-pin harness.
As per the information kreg357 posted, you should be using two wires from the 9-pin harness. The ground wire is important. Barring that being the issue it seems like there is backfeeding going on and listing your connections would allow others to help you better than just describing symptoms.
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Posted: December 31, 2021 at 6:39 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote davep.
If the black GROUND wire in the 9-pin is not connected, that could be the entire problem. Really good catch, @catback
mjm4jc 
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Posted: January 01, 2022 at 9:23 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mjm4jc
Thanks Kreg357. I found the problem. There was a yellow power wire coming from the fuse box under the hood through the fire wall into the the area where I was working. I guess through all the cutting, routing, banding, and confusion of wires, I somehow attached this wire to the yellow wire coming from the 9 pin harness. I must have done this in the very beginning of the install process, because I had all the wires folded and banded from that harness that were not being used. Anyway, it's sort of a mystery as to how I ended up attaching that yellow wire to the the yellow wire on the 9 pin harness (other than the matching colors). I knew from the beginning, that I only needed the two wires from that harness......white and black. But the bottom line is that the third control unit didn't smoke, and everything works as it should. I think the biggest lesson learned here for me is to work more neatly and keep unused wires folded and banded and out of the way from the start. I was blessed that the guys at the store about a hour from where I live gave me two control units for free the last time I went there. I am also blessed to have the wealth of knowledge from you and others on this forum. I have one more wire to run........the horn wire. I'm using a 4 pin relay. Hope to finish in a few and that there are no set-backs! Thanks again!
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