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oolowrideoo 
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I've got a 2002 Grand AM GT, with a Viper 790XV. When I remote start or use the key, the security light comes on and stays on. I used the DEI bypass module for the PK2, but I'm still having the problem. I've tried everything I can think of to fix this... Resetting the alarm, disconnecting the battery overnight, re-learning the correct resistance, etc... I'm wondering if the car has a memory of the security violation, or if this is a real time thing. Can it just be reset by a dealership? I'm close to just pulling the bulb out of the dash. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance

Ryan

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You used the wrong bypass module forthis vehicle. Should have used: 555t or 555L.
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oolowrideoo 
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I used the 555L... any other suggestions?

Thanks

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Posted: August 12, 2003 at 1:22 PM / IP Logged  
Take a look at Diagram #2 here if you are interested in a bypass method that uses a single relay and a resistor (or Trimpot).
Passlock II Temporary Bypass (Diagram 2)
The last '02 Grand Am I did I had to turn the key to start before hitting the brake after Remote Starting or else the security light would come on. There is a factory anti-grind feature on that year so you dont have to worry about grinding the starter.
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Are you tunring the key all the way to the "start" or "crank" position when you get in? I was unaware that my first remote start had anti-grind feature and my Blazer would show the light when I just moved the key to "ign" (like the old days). Accidently watched wifes friend go all the way to "start" (even though she was told not to) and the security light didn't come on. Now I do the same thing and no more light.
Hope this helps.
oolowrideoo 
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the light comes on even when I use the key.
oolowrideoo 
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I used the realy and the resistor method, however it gave me problems... the resistor value will change with temperature.
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Posted: August 16, 2003 at 9:28 PM / IP Logged  

on grand am's it is almost inevitable. that security bypass will almost always fail eventually.. the DEI module is fine.. make sure you do not attempt to start the car with the yellow wire for passlock II cut..  that will definitely trigger the security light every time.

to cancel out that light do the following

  • reconnect the yellow wire to original.
  • disconnect the negative side of the battery only and wait 10-15 minutes
  • i forget, either the key must be in the ignition but in the off position or it may need to be in the on position
  • either way, only about 15 minutes

when ever you check the resistance value, you need to crank the key, make sure the yellow starter wire is cut so the car does not try to start, that is what causes the false light

also, you might have the incorrect resistance

here is what i do

  • with the starter wire cut
  • first cut the yellow passlock (very thin) wire
  • the other passlock wire, not the yellow, is your reference point
  • meter the side of the yellow that goes to the key
  • meter 2 to 3 times just to be sure
  • once you have the resistance, connect the resistor from the yellow wire that is not on the key side and connect it to the black passlock wire, or whatever color it is in that vehicle.  forget the bypass module
oolowrideoo 
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Alright, I'm frustrated. I've tried every suggestion and I can't get the d@mn light to go off. Everything works fine, with remote start, and key start. The light is just on all the time. I'm trying to sell the car, and having the security light on is not helping. If there is anyone in northeast Ohio that wants to make a quick $100 please contact me. I need to get this taken care of, and I want it right.

thanks,

Ryan

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Posted: August 19, 2003 at 5:29 AM / IP Logged  
Should my car start without the yellow passlock wire connected? It will start with the key with the wire disconnected, however it will not start without the key.
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