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are t-taps or scotchlocks suitable ?


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CutDog504 
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Posted: August 25, 2003 at 12:22 PM / IP Logged  
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eurotek 
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lets see, you must strip the wire in the car, then the wire from the unit, then you wrap, then you apply heat, making sure its warm enough not to cause a cold solder joint, then you apply the solder , it might have to cool, then you tape, and then you put on a tie strap..     gee, that sounds very fast..

in that amount of time, i would have all the ignition wires and starter, w power wire Ttapped, properly.    if it takes you more than 4 seconds to tap a wire, and that would be a thick wire, than you need not tap,

good luck to all you professionals out there

padawan 
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eurotek, I think you've got my method confused with soldering, I didn't hear anyone say anything about zip tie over a solder connection although that would be good..
BTW, I timed myself tapping into a door lock wire yesterday, took me 55 sec to do all the stripping, poking, wrapping, taping and zip tie-ing, pretty quick in my book.
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Yeah, I am not sure what you are talking about, but if you take only 4 seconds to t-tap each wire, I would go out of my way to recommend that no one go to your shop.
Soldering takes very little time for me, but it really isnt about the time, its about doing a reliable, quality job that you can take pride in. I know quite a few hacks that are just concerned about time. I am concerned about time, and soldering certainly doesnt slow me down.
Even though I am sick of talking about this, I should mention for the record that I dotn have to wait much more than 4 seconds for the solder to suck right into the connection since I use a very hot iron, and I dont wait for it to cool down before taping, and even if I did, solder only takes a few seconds to cool down. I solder all of the Ignition Accessory, and Starter wires at the same time, then I do the rest in groups depending on their location ans accessibility. ALso, I dont put a cable tie over the tape because I use 3M super 33+ tape and it doesnt need one.
By the way, I dont need luck ... I'm a professional.
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rudbwoy69camaro 
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You do what you have to do.  I like soldering, some don't.  I don't like t-taps unless I have to use 'em and don't need europest luck.

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Just an FYI
Data sheets for T-Taps (3M)
12 AWG (yellow) can handle 20 amps.
tom small 
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Posted: August 29, 2003 at 6:38 PM / IP Logged  
i love t-taps and scotch locks because when my competitors use them and have problems, the customers come to my shop where we re-install the unit or sell them a new one (old one gets returned).  to everyone out there saving time by installing the easy way - THANKS   $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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