jl audio W7 rivals?

all the subs mentioned above besides the mtx 9500 series are spl subs.  The W7 was engineered as a hybrid, a subwoofer that can be a SPL or SQ sub.  All those are great subs but i have yet to see a series like JL's win so many first places in SQ and SPL.

i heard clif desighn and mtx are the same people. is that true

yeah the JL W7 is a great sub but it is ridiculously overpriced!!!  i mean come on, a 12" is $750!!! thats outrageous.  there are many 12" subs better than a W7 or of equal quality that are cheaper!  MTX 9500, Atomic Apocalypse, Eclipse Titanium, Memphis HPO, PowerAcoustik Mofo, Fosgate power HX2, and Cadence Wild Beast just to name a few!!!  as far as the W7 being a great SPL sub...wrong!!! its a very loud sub with great sound quality too but people talk about this sub as the greatest thing to ever hit a SPL competition!  i am a very avid sound competitor...everyone on my team (wallstreets finest) uses Atomic subs.  they are cheaper and guess what...all but 2 of us have TN state records and believe it or not, we did it without using JL W7!  I saw a guy do a 145dB with one 12 W7.  this is not very impressive as this can be acomplished with several brands of 12" subs that arent as expensive.  i also saw a guy with 2 13" W7's and a directed 1100D on each sub only hit a 153!  for the money spent on those subs...he could have bought something else and hit higher numbers!!!

Thank you all for your info, but now I know I want a sub with great s/q for everyday use. Not a spl sub. Jimmy DiTraglia, is that Cadence sub a good s/q sub? I got brochures on them but I haven't heard anything on them. Actually, anyone can answer this quesion.

bberman knows where its at. go with the alum 12 for great spl and sqdream it, build it, fiberglass it

I will second that! I just didn't have the money to be able to afford one so i went with the entry levels and they are still awesome subs!

go with atomic!   i use them for everyday use and they are stupid loud!  so do most of the people on my team...we use them for SPL competitions and everyday use....if you want some info/pricing on them let me know!

pure did you get your box finished yet?

i'll take info on the atomic thank you