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bberman1 
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Posted: November 16, 2003 at 9:25 PM / IP Logged  

If you call this number they will give you all the authorized retailers in your area (800)55-ECLIPSE .

Ketel22 
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do they have a web site? and will my amp be able to handle the eclipse? i can get 2x762 @ 2ohm,  2x298 @ 4ohm and 1x1562 @ 4ohm
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Posted: November 17, 2003 at 11:54 AM / IP Logged  

Take a look at www.eclipse-web.com and there lies the info. I would choose two 12" subs over one 15" sub. I would choose the aluminum subs and not the titanium. Two 12" drivers combined have more surface area than 1 15" driver, read more air movement (with similar drivers). The power handling capacity of any two aluminums is 1000w rms, two titaniums is 1500w rms. I would choose two subs as it tends to smooth out the bass response, you don't have to work the subs as hard to make bass as you do one 15" sub (generally speaking). I have done numerous systems over the years with these subs and use two 10" myself. If you power them properly, build the RIGHT box, mount the box PROPERLYand use the subs as they are designed to be used, look out, you have moderate to high spl for most people, but you also have sound quality to boot. Expect a very smooth response thanks to the sealed box (1.12 cu ft. sealed gross internal), expect multi tone bass response, not the one note wonder, expect authority for bass response if needed. These subs also just really happen to like a Audio Contol Epicenter. We are doing a single 12" with an epicenter right now in a old VW Jetta. The aluminum drivers are a great choice for you, they don't absolutely cripple your wallet, the technology in these subs is #1 and I have never ever had a dissapointed customer. The aluminum drivers are available as a single 4ohm or dual 4ohm. If your amp is only stable to 4 ohm, buy yourself a pair of dual 4 ohm drivers and hook them up in series parallel. The Subs you have are great, they are probably just not quite up to the task that you ask of them. Exactly what kind of problems were you having?

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Ketel22 
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manufactor errors with the kappa's and now ikesound expects me to pay for shipping every time they send me a bad speaker. since im in hawaii that is about $140 round trip per pair of bad speakers. i am currently trying to return them.
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Posted: November 17, 2003 at 6:59 PM / IP Logged  

Word of advice, buy from your local specialty shop who is an authorized dealer and has an interest in you as a customer. This takes care of buying "B" stock manufacturers equipment passed off as "A" stock by e-tailers and all the associated warranty problems that you are having. Yes you live on an Island and so do I (Vancouver Island, BC). If I have a customers warranty claim as an authorized dealer, the manufacturer is under no obligation to cover shipping and handling, however, as a specialty dealer I will pay the shipping and handling one way for my customers if a claim does arise. A heavy 12" sub through the mail, insured is about $20.00 cdn, sounds like a rip job on the shipping.

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Ketel22 
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heh shipping for me is $40 one way for a 12" but yeha im trying to get my money back and go  to a store front

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Ketel22 
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i went to the authorized dealer on the island and they dont even keep them in stock. to get an aluminum 12" is $399 and a alum. 15" is $499
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go bramaha 15 my friend has one and it pounds so hard with the gains halfway
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I know things are a little more expensive over there, but you should be able to do better then 400 for aluminum. I paid that much for my Titanium’s, I would suggest that when you’re ready to buy you go in there and negotiate with them.
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bberman what do you think would be a fair price for them then?  Also has anybody heard of digital design?
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