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Posted: January 11, 2004 at 6:12 PM / IP Logged  
You've got it.  I'll PM you if I get a buyer for the in-dash changer.
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Just curious, you obviously have done this before, did you have good results with it?

Also, Just for my FYI, do the speaker grills in the doors pop out or do the door panels need to be completely removed to add speakers?

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Posted: January 11, 2004 at 7:27 PM / IP Logged  

Yea, I've done it before and as long as the sound from the factory sub is adequate for your taste, it works fine (especially if your new HU has adjustable sub level controls.)  The door panels must come off, the grills are part of the door panel.  Here are some instructions:

http://carstereohelp.com/stereoremovalLincNavFSpkR.htm

http://carstereohelp.com/stereoremovalLincNavRSpkR.htm

Cheers!

gatorguy 
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Posted: January 17, 2004 at 6:42 AM / IP Logged  

Well, got everything in and the amp "woke up" and everything is working great. Question though, I have everything wired correctly though when I fade to the right or the left, the sub seems to drop deeper, , pound more, etc, etc, this tells me that the sub is wired in stereo, and not mono, is that correct?

IF this is the case, is there any way to change that or not?

You seem to have the right answers so I thought I would start here first

Thanks in advance

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Posted: January 17, 2004 at 9:38 AM / IP Logged  

Yes, the sub uses a stereo amp.  You say the sound is better when the balance is all the way to one side than when in the middle?  Hmm.  That's a new one on me.  Does you new HU have a sub output or are you using the rear main output?

I am glad to hear you got it working, though.  Congrats!

gatorguy 
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The new HU  (pioneer) has a SUB OUT which is what I used, there just seesm to be more bass to the sub when all the way to the left or right versus dead nuts center.

Seems like the sub is wired for MONO but is being played in stereo.

Just curious if you had any ideas

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Posted: January 17, 2004 at 3:59 PM / IP Logged  

Try increasing the output level on your sub channel.  Usually there are level adjustments like "+3, +9, +12" etc.  See if giving the sub amp a hotter signal helps.  Also, the OEM sub amp does not have any crossovers in it, so using the sub out on your deck, set it to 120 Hz or lower.  The OEM Alpine HU sub output crosses over at about 120 Hz.  Lincoln uses a stereo feed to a mono sub amp, IIRC.  The stereo signal is summed inside the amp.

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Posted: January 17, 2004 at 8:28 PM / IP Logged  

Tried increasing the level of the sub and the sub plays a lot of Mid thur it, versus low freq's, I am afraind I may have to try moving into a stealthbox and new amp to achieve the results im looking for, got the deck set at 50mhz or lower for the sub, ill try bumping it up and messing around there. if any new developments arise, ill let ya know

Thanks

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If your looking to replace your factory sub Q Logic makes an enclosure for one 10" sub. MTX also makes their own version that you can get powered or non powered. I would go with the Q Logic so you can pick your own sub. Enter your vehicle information at www.crutchfield.com in their vehicle selector(click on what fits my vehicle under the car audio section on the left) and you can look at the MTX and the Q logic enclosures that fit your Navigator.

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Maybe one channel was wired reverse polarity. I didnt scrutinize on the wording thru the last 5 posts but try reversing polarity on one of the rcas. Mel
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