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tnrplaya 
Copper - Posts: 58
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Posted: February 14, 2004 at 5:03 PM / IP Logged  
I need help for fusing my system:
Do I need to fuse my 1/0 awg power wire BEFORE I get to my Fuse distribution block? (Here each component is individualy fused)
I will be doing my big 3 with 1/0 awg as well. I have heard that I need to fuse the alt->Pos Battery connection. I have heard to fuse it at the alternator rating, at the "ampacity" of the wire, no fuse at all?!?! can somebody please advise? thanks!
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Posted: February 14, 2004 at 5:16 PM / IP Logged  

The fuse is designed to protect the vehicle and it's contents from damage (fire)caused by a short circuit in the power line. It's size is determined by the combined value of the fuses in the amplifiers to be used.  It is ok to have a fuse (or breaker) that is larger than this combined value but should not drastically exceed it. The fuse goes ideally no more than 18" from the battery on the power line running to the amplifiers. There is no need to fuse between the alternator and the battery.

The only reason that you would used a fused distribution block is if the amplifiers do not have fuses built into them, do your amps have built in fuses? With the questions that you have asked, I think it would be prudent to list as much information for us as possible, this means vehicle type, year, equipment etc.

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Posted: February 14, 2004 at 5:19 PM / IP Logged  
Didn't notice the sig, is that your equipment and vehicle or are you adding more?
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tnrplaya 
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Posted: February 14, 2004 at 6:30 PM / IP Logged  

Rob,

Here is waht my final setup will be:

PG Limited Edition Octane Amp<<Basically this consists of (2) ti400.2's with a 1F cap and Bass cube built into one casis. (Subs and fronts)

PG ti400.2 (Rears)

APC 350w Power Inverter (powering Xbox console, and possibly camera or laptop)

(2) JL 12w6v2's

98 Accord Coupe 2.3L Vtec, I will upgrade the alt and probably use one yellow top battery. let me know if you need more info! thanks for your help so far. [I hope you can read my chicken scratch drawing below]help me fuse my system please -- posted image.

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Sony 10 Disc MP3 Changer
X-box
APC 350W inverter
Monster 1/0
Irragi 180A Alternator
Ketel22 
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Posted: February 14, 2004 at 7:22 PM / IP Logged  
you need a fuse within 18" of the battery on your main line to your distro block, you do not need a fuse on your line between the alt. and the battery. everything else looks like its in running order.
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Posted: February 14, 2004 at 7:32 PM / IP Logged  
I agree, looks good and should sound even better.
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spl_enterprise 
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Posted: February 14, 2004 at 10:53 PM / IP Logged  
yeah put a fuse in between the alternator and the battery. who the hell told you that one? btw nice schematic brotha.
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tnrplaya 
Copper - Posts: 58
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Posted: February 15, 2004 at 5:31 PM / IP Logged  

I read it here. So I should NOT fuse betweem the alt and battery? Perhaps only for smaller guage wire? I think the guy who wrote that tutorial used 4 awg...

"6) Run the wire either through your fuse box if applicable or through a fuse. The fuse should be sized to match the max ampacity of your wire, not the output capability of your alternator. As you can see I just went through the fuse box, so my upgrade is probably not making as much of a difference as it could if it were fused externally, but my alternator is capable of withstanding the draws anyway so I'm not particularly worried about it. If I ever begin to see a problem w/ current draws, I will probably fuse the wire externally with a 300A or so fuse..."

THANKS FOR HELPING!!!!!

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PG Ti400.2
(2) JL12w6v2
Focal 165KF
JL TR-690TXi
Sony XAV-7W
Sony 10 Disc MP3 Changer
X-box
APC 350W inverter
Monster 1/0
Irragi 180A Alternator
Ketel22 
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Posted: February 15, 2004 at 9:07 PM / IP Logged  
if that person plans to run a 300Amp fuse on 4ga wire he is crazy.
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