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Metra Tech 
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Posted: March 15, 2004 at 11:47 AM / IP Logged  

I am not 100% sure that the GMRC-01 works that way, but it makes sense, but in order for me to refer that way I would have to be 100%. If you say it will work, cool, run with it, but if you have not tried it in that application please let the general public know. The chimes on the amplified vehicles are powered by the amp not the radio.

chriswallace187 
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The GMRC-01 has a chime speaker built in which generates chimes whenever the BCM sends the command to over the data line. It doesn't have any need to turn on the amp, since it replaces the factory chime system. I'll eat my DMM if it doesn't work in this application.
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Posted: March 16, 2004 at 10:32 AM / IP Logged  
That is totally true but what I was referring to was the data signal that the GMRC-01 needs to reproduce those chimes. On the amplified vehicles the computer tells the amp to reproduce the chime, not the radio. It should work yes as it makes sense in theory because it's all on the data bus, but unless I know 100%, I cannot recommend. Please try this for me and let me know. 
chriswallace187 
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Posted: March 16, 2004 at 11:45 PM / IP Logged  
ok...I understand what you're saying now. I have used a GMRC-01 on my '02 Sunfire with the Monsoon system, and the chime function works perfectly there. I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work on an amplified Monte Carlo as well.
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Posted: March 17, 2004 at 9:43 AM / IP Logged  
Cool, thanks for letting me know. I figured it would work.
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Posted: March 18, 2004 at 5:33 PM / IP Logged  
not a problem
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Posted: March 19, 2004 at 10:16 AM / IP Logged  

well, since i started this post i suppose i should do the courtesy of keeping anyone reading it updated of my decisions and status (especially anyone who is learning about montes from it!).

what i've decided to do is keep the Metra 70-2003T harness i have because i WANT to relocate the factory deck because i WANT to retain my computer interface so i can reset options.  since the Metra 70-2003T harness has a plug for hooking up a speaker for the "door chimes" i plan on attaching an $0.87 Ford 2" speaker that I got from Parts Express and hiding that down under the dash somewhere that i can still hear it, but not see it.  i kinda like the chime to remind me of when my parking brake is on. 

since the Metra 70-2003T harness doesn't knock the aftermarket speaker leads down to linelevel, i'm planning on running new wires to all speaker locations and bypassing the factory wiring and amp.  i've read in different posts that only the rear 6x9s are run off of the rear deck amp but i'm going to check into that carefully.  I would much prefer to just run wires to the trunk for the 6x9s and use the factory wiring harness for the front door speakers (then i don't have to pull the door panels!) - but i don't want to risk damaging the amp (it all goes back to stock when i sell it someday) if in fact the amp drives all 4 speakers.

i've surfed around and found instructions for removing the dash panel around the radio and i'm just going to yank the door panels the old fashioned way - carefully.  i also PLAN on taking digital pictures as i go and possibly posting them on my website for others to learn from when working on a monte carlo.  we'll see how ambitious i get!

Nick B. ~ MN
2001 Monte Carlo LS
Kenwood KDC-MP925
Hifonics Zeus
Rockford 12" Punch
nbb350 
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Posted: March 19, 2004 at 10:36 AM / IP Logged  
oh yeah, i also plan on tapping into the power window wire to run a relay for my 12+ switched power lead...
Nick B. ~ MN
2001 Monte Carlo LS
Kenwood KDC-MP925
Hifonics Zeus
Rockford 12" Punch
chriswallace187 
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Posted: March 19, 2004 at 12:55 PM / IP Logged  
that certainly sounds ambitious enough. I'd still suggest test running it without bypassing the factory amp, though, for 2 reasons.
First is in my personal experience I have hooked up speaker level wires to factory amplifiers on several GM vehicles(including my personal '02 Sunfire w/Monsoon system), and the sound quality was not noticeably affected.
Second, GMs amplified systems tend to have unconventional speaker wiring setups(e.g. on my Sunfire the front tweeters are 4 ohm, the woofers are 2 ohm, and I'm pretty sure it's the same way with the rear 6x9s; and each woofer or tweeter has its own wires from the amp).
I don't mean to discourage you, just thought you should know this. Let us know how it goes, and good luck.
Chris
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Posted: March 19, 2004 at 3:28 PM / IP Logged  

i just hope i can keep this thing from snowballing into a full system...i still have all my old PPI white Art series amps from when i competed back in 95 and the A1200 shell which i purchased with the intent to cover my crossover and power distribution (and now sirius satellite tuner).  the bottom side of that trunk lid is a huge flat area that just seems to scream "mount things on me!"  :) of course if i install the PPI amps, i need a new sub box and forced air cooling and neon and actuators and...ah...the good old days before careers and family!

i might stop by the local GM dealer and see how much the electrical schematic would cost too...

thanks to everyone for all the help!

Nick B. ~ MN
2001 Monte Carlo LS
Kenwood KDC-MP925
Hifonics Zeus
Rockford 12" Punch
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