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ashokn225 
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Posted: May 26, 2004 at 4:48 PM / IP Logged  

I know there are more than enough threads on this but just bear with me....ive done my research ( more or less ) and im looking for a system with a perfect balance of SQ and SPL and heres what ive come up with ...lemme know if anything on this list is not up to par or if there is something as good or better for less, or if theres anything else i would need to complete the setup:

HU: Eclipse CD8053

Front Components: Focal Polykevlar 6.5" 165K2

Amps:

1) Zapco competition C2K-6.0X 2 channel 600W Amp

2) Zapco Reference REF1000M 1ch 1500W amp

Subwoofer:  Adire Audio Brahma 10" subwoofer

thanks alot guys,

Ashok

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Posted: May 26, 2004 at 4:56 PM / IP Logged  

I would eliminate the Cd8053 unless you plan on buying the BLA adaptor with it. Save your money and buy the CD8454 instead. The extra dollars saved can go towards sound deadening or install. Install is what is going to make this system stand out from the rest. For a SQ / SQL system I would use two subs rather than one as two subs will generally play louder due to the increase of surface area. Two subs can still handle the same amount of power as one larger driver. Two subs as well tend to smooth out the peaks and dips in the bass response, thus for me anyhow it makes the bass response easier to listen to, I do not have to work my amp and sub anywhere near as hard.

For speakers, no amount of research on the net will tell you how they sound and perform in your vehicle. My recommendation is to go out and listen to good speaker brands like Focal, Diamond, MB Quart,  AVI and others and buy what your ears like the sound of. FOr the subs I'll throw in my usual dig for the Eclipse Aluminum or Titanium subs in the proper sealed box. Some vehicles work well some types of equipment, others do not. IE a convertable has a way different way of reproducing sound as compared to an SUV. The type of vehicle is also a consideration here. What kind of vehicle is this for?

Top Secret, I can tell you but then my wife will kill me.
ashokn225 
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Posted: May 26, 2004 at 5:12 PM / IP Logged  

its for a mitsu evo 8

also, with 2 subs, do u reccomend 2 10" subs? or move down to 8"?....i dont want overkill in the subs as i listen to mostly  alternative rock and occasionally rap...also...changing it to 2 subs will mean i need to change the amp to an extremely more expensive amp...the 2ch Zapco 2200W ( which is what I will need for 2 Brahmas or titaniums) is $1600  in itself....lol....but if u think that it really makes that big a difference, then I will take it into consideration

also, about the HU, i picked the 8053 only because of the 16V outputs as compared to the 8V output of the 8443, and ive heard both and there is quite a difference but I sound deadening and proper install is more important, so ur right about that

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Posted: May 26, 2004 at 5:57 PM / IP Logged  
bad news man... that deck uses BALANCED outputs, and if you are only using one side of the balanced output, (hooking the amps to the RCA's directly, without using the balanced line adapter - BLA) you spent the extra money for nothing... I know, because that is the VERY reason I didn't buy that one in place of my 8051. You have an 8V deck... sorry. And even if you ARE using the BLA, the benefits you are hearing is NOT because of the "16V Output", (the BLA only sends 8V to the amps) it is partly because of the balanced configuration of the RCA signal to the back of the car, and partly because of the deck itself... better quality parts used in it, and hand built and tuned. Also, speaking from experience, the Brahmas are an excellent choice (requiring a bit more box volume) or the Eclipse Ti10 is also a spectacular option, if ya wanna lay down the bux for it. The Eclipse will work excellently, with good output AND extension in one cubic foot sealed. It actually had better extension (went deeper) than the Ti12 that I upgraded to, and still run. One drawback to the Ti, THEY NEED LOTS OF POWER! I started with the 100 watt amp from eclipse, but had to upgrade, because there wasn't enough power, oftentimes. I eventually ran the 4000 watt digital amp from Eclipse to it... Never blew it, and it LoVeD that much power, as well. Otherwise, you have chosen some spectacular gear, and you will have an excellent sounding system, just make sure you take as much care in your installation as you have with the coices in your gear!
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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Posted: May 26, 2004 at 6:06 PM / IP Logged  
I suggest using 2 12's as opposed to 2 10's myself.
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ashokn225 
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Posted: May 26, 2004 at 6:09 PM / IP Logged  

haemphyst...thanks for the info man and for the compliments on my decisions

velocity motors and forbidden....i was asking if I should have 2 subs at all....as in is it that much better than one?....not if i should have 2 12's or 2 10's.....no offense velocity because im thankful for the post...just clearing things up

and i guess ive decided to go for the 8443 instead now

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Posted: May 26, 2004 at 6:10 PM / IP Logged  
OK, since my second post, the correct one, was removed by a moderator, Here is my correction, in a 4th post! I MEANT to say the 1100 watt amp from Eclipse, not the 100 watt amp from Eclipse.
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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Posted: May 26, 2004 at 6:12 PM / IP Logged  
...and with the Eclipse or the Brahma, you will be very happy using one 10 inch sub. You have some good power, and if you put the driver in a proper enclosure, the results will be very satisfying!
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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Posted: May 26, 2004 at 6:16 PM / IP Logged  

Having 2 subs will help for your SPL score as well the amp your going to use will function better with 2 subs wired in parallel. Those amps are very nice ( looking at getting the big C2K9.0X amp for our competition vehicle ). It will also depend on your installation and how much room your allowing yourself for the system. Personally though I still would try to make 2 subs fit into the car.

Jeff
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Posted: May 26, 2004 at 6:21 PM / IP Logged  

SWEET. but wat does SPL stand for

and SQ?

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