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thapimpfromchi 
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The new thing on the block is Class T digital amplifiers. Tripath. Supposed to be ultra efficient. It's used in my head unit, works great, but wondering how much power they draw (amperage): using these specs for example:

Frequency Response 20 Hz – 20 kHz

S/N Ratio >95dB
THD: 0.02% all channels driven
250mv - 2.5 V Low level Input Voltage
500mV - 5V High Level Input Voltage
250W x 2 @ 4 Ohm Stereo
450W x 2 @ 2 Ohm Stereo
750W x 2 @ 1 Ohm Stereo
2000W x 1 @ 2 Ohm Mono
Dimensions: 2.5"H x 8.5”W x 15.25"L

Those are the specs for a Class T amp. MA Audio. Model H2K-TP. Thanks.

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Posted: June 11, 2004 at 9:39 AM / IP Logged  
Tripath amps are still somewhat an unknown quantity, although some of the material I've read looks really promising.  I have a H2K-T amp on my workbench now and hope to have the testing done soon.  I'll at least let everyon know if the specs are real after I get the report.
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thapimpfromchi 
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great man, i'll be looking forward to seeing what the almighty DY has to say. lol.
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Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp
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My Arc amp uses a Tripath chip.  From what I understand, they are very similar to class D.  In other words, they are very efficient at lower power levels, but at full power efficiency drops down to A/B range.  They are also much more expensive to impliment.

You say your head unit has a Tripath chip in it?  They are kinda large, and really not needed in head unit's, so that is surprising.  What head unit do you have?

Steven Kephart

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Here is a bech test of a class T amp.

http://www.carsound.com/reviews/amps/Ultimate_DT2-800.html

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I beleive Panasonic has one in one of their higher-end cd players.
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Here'sPanasonic's new head that uses an internal Class T. 60 watts rms.
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Preliminary test results on MA Audio H2K Class T amplifier:

Maximum bridged output before clipping @ 12.5 volt input: 62.7 volts @ 2.5% THD 20-20KHz (measured into an 8-ohm reactive load)  This correcponds to 1965.6 watts into 2-ohms bridged.  Maximum output at <10% THD: 80.7 volts.  Damping factor 20-20KHz into 8-ohms reactive: 46.  DIN power @ 1KHz, 1%THD into 8-ohms reactive: 76.5 volts.  THD from 20-20KHz @ 28.3 volt output: 0.2%  S/N ratio (IHF A) 20-20KHz <0.2% THD: -88db.  Frequency response +/- 1db: 18 Hz to 35KHz.  There is significant measureable high frequency noise above 35kHz extending up to 150KHz.  Switching noise is present and audible at startup, measured at 46db.  IMD from 20-1KHz is <0.1%, 1KHz to 20Khz is 0.25% @ 28.3 volt output.  Overall power efficiency: 63%  Distortion numbers in general increase at higher frequencies much faster than at lower frequencies as power output increases.

This looks like a decent amp for subs, but probably not for mains.

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thapimpfromchi 
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yea, custom is right. Its the panasonic. CQ-C9800U. Unbelievable power, and sound man. best 425 i've ever spent. :)
1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp
thapimpfromchi 
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thanks for the reply there DY. I was hoping they are efficient. I can get those MA amps for dirt cheap. THanks.
1990 Honda Civic HB:
Clarion DXZ545MP H.U.
2- 6.5" Power Acoustik interiors
Diamond Audio 600.1 amp
Diamond Audio 15" M6MKII
Pyramid PB881X 4 CH. Amp
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