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spokman 
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Posted: August 10, 2004 at 9:11 AM / IP Logged  

What color wires are you using as the door trigger?

quick4321 
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Posted: August 10, 2004 at 9:51 AM / IP Logged  
I used pink/green and pink / YELLOW out of the left kick pannel and grey/red (i think) out ofthe right kick pannel. I have a 2dr sport. How about the doom light not settign off the alarm? I tied that into  BLACK/ lt.blue.
spokman 
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Posted: August 10, 2004 at 7:33 PM / IP Logged  

Pink yellow and pink green are your door lock and unlock. I have no idea what the grey red is. It isn't a door trigger according the the factory manual. The dome light might be usuable, might not. Depends on how long it takes for your alarm to arm and how long it takes for the dome light to go out. I skipped trying to figure it out and connected directly the wire running from the GEM to the RAP in the trunk area. You could connect your door triggers to the actual trigger wires as yours is a two door. The drivers side should be: Yellow/Black. The passenger side should be: Gray/Red. The first color should be the primary color, the second is the stripe. Use your negative door trigger wire. I'm not sure if you need to diode isolate or not. Let me know if this helps.

quick4321 
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Posted: August 11, 2004 at 9:07 AM / IP Logged  
Now that you are saying yellow/black and Grey/Red those are the colors I used plus one more for the rear hatch trigger.
What would cause these to false after being armed for 20 mins? As I said I used a diode on each trigger. Is there something else that might be causing the alarm to false and
show a door being opened? I remember the manual sayign that
some other triggers show up as a door alarm? Ill spend some tiem this weekend reading the install manual again.
spokman 
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Posted: August 11, 2004 at 7:07 PM / IP Logged  
Good questions.. after re-reading my post I realized I went and found out what that grey/red wires was. Was kinda tired.. lol. By falsing do you mean the alarm going off? Just making sure that I understand. I really don't know to tell the truth. Could it be something else causing the alarm to go off? Shock sensor maybe? I'm not an alarm expert, just know my Ford fairly well.
quick4321 
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Posted: August 11, 2004 at 7:29 PM / IP Logged  
Im going to spend some time on it this weekend. Something is triggering a door alarm after the car has been armed for 20 mins. So I plan to look at all the connections that cause the alarm to trigger and show as a "Door" violation. Any sugestions on my other questions? I think a mod combined my two posts and no one is looking at my other questions becasue the first 5 posts are reguarding an older question that I resolved. ( I dont know if people are readignthe entire post to get to the second set of questions I asked.)
spokman 
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Posted: August 13, 2004 at 8:04 PM / IP Logged  
I'm not forgetting about you I just don't have the answers to your other questions. G'luck!
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Posted: August 13, 2004 at 9:06 PM / IP Logged  
1. Per DEI, "To avoid the dome light delay and dome light time-out use the separate door triggers. In the drivers kick panel find yellow/black for the drivers door, lt. GREEN/ YELLOW for the drivers rear door, and WHITE/ purple for the rear hatch. In the passengers kick panel find gray/red for the passenger front door, and pink/lt. blue for the passengers rear door. All five wires are negative trigger and must be diode isolated together." The 20 minutes sounds like a gem problem, not quite sure if this problem existed in 95 though.
2. What brand sensor is it. If other then DEI then it won't warn away. Damn multiplex.
3a. That doesn't sound right. The alarm is only sending 6V? Also would need to know specificaly what the relay is.
3b. You put two #3 questions. Don't know.
4. Use neons on channel 2 using a latching relay setup. Then wire the windows to channel 4. This way will be easier in the long run.
5. Goes back to the door trigger question. If you were to hook the door trigger to the BLACK/ blue +trigger then lifting the door handle would set the alarm off. If you meant hooking up domelight supervision, then it would have no effect.
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quick4321 
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Posted: August 16, 2004 at 8:41 AM / IP Logged  
1. Per DEI, "To avoid the dome light delay and dome light time-out use the separate door triggers. In the drivers kick panel find yellow/black for the drivers door, lt. GREEN/ YELLOW for the drivers rear door, and WHITE/ purple for the rear hatch. In the passengers kick panel find gray/red for the passenger front door, and pink/lt. blue for the passengers rear door. All five wires are negative trigger and must be diode isolated together." The 20 minutes sounds like a gem problem, not quite sure if this problem existed in 95 though.
**** Thats how I have it hooked up, I also used diodes on each trigger.
2. What brand sensor is it. If other then DEI then it won't warn away. Damn multiplex.
***** Its a DEI microwave sensor. I combined the two trigger wires together per instructions and then hooked them up to the multiplex trigger on the alarm. Whats a gem problem?
3a. That doesn't sound right. The alarm is only sending 6V? Also would need to know specificaly what the relay is.
**** Correction the output of aux 4 is .6V not 6v. Shouldn't it be 1V? DO I need to buy a special latching relay from DEI or will an "automotive relay" from radio shack work?
3b. You put two #3 questions. Don't know.
4. Use neons on channel 2 using a latching relay setup. Then wire the windows to channel 4. This way will be easier in the long run.
***** How do I program the remote to activate channel 2? So I can roll up and down the windows and also crack them 2".
5. Goes back to the door trigger question. If you were to hook the door trigger to the BLACK/ blue +trigger then lifting the door handle would set the alarm off. If you meant hooking up domelight supervision, then it would have no effect.
***** I guess theres really no reason to make the dome light trigger the alarm. Probally jsut annoy the neighobors and general public when a kid walks by and pulls on my door handles.
THANKS!!!
quick4321 
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Posted: August 16, 2004 at 8:42 AM / IP Logged  
Also its a 2dr car so I olny have 3 door tirggers. 2 doors and the rear hatch.
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