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03 honda accord, compustar preinstallation


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threesquare 
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Posted: August 29, 2004 at 11:28 PM / IP Logged  

okay i'm going to attempt the install it myself.

honda accord 03 ex v6  AT
compustar 2wssr w/ 1 way remote.  cm3000 brain.  antenna box with BLUE sticker.
bypass module: PASS4 from Omega remote start
   (this came with the compustar)
wiring diagram.  for security and remote start.
both from directechs.com

k now here are some questions i have while doing my research.

1-do i need to use the 2nd relay? 2nd  ign/acc/starter?
   in the diagram.  my car doesn't have 2nd ign/starter.   but it does have 2nd accessory
2-in diagram my car have a key sense wire in the ignition.
my bypass module, from Omega require a key, and use a antenna ring around the ignition.   can i connect the antenna wire to the keysense?   if i don't want to give up a key, do i have to get another bypass or can i use the same one? i read that some DEI module 555?  doens't need a key, will that work on my 03 accord

3-how do i do ignition lock?  when the door lock when the car starts and when unlock when i remove the key?  will it work if i wire up all the wire correctly? w/o extra module/programings?

4-on the brain  connector #3 pin 5 and 6 (+)/(-) door trigger

from the diagram i see (-) door trigger, but not positive,  where will that be in m y car?
http://www.directechs.com/directwire/wire_body.asp?action=select&yr=5234&product=Remote%20Start

5-connector #4 pin 4 and 5   (+)/(-) lock output

manual says  "this wire is the (+) lock output that doubles as a (-) unlock output" and vice versa.  what is this for and where can i find the connection in the car?

6-how can i do auto window up on arm? will this need xtra module?

thank you in advance to everyone that reply.

any further tips and instruction will greatly appreciated.

thanks again.

silvercivicsir 
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Posted: August 30, 2004 at 12:58 AM / IP Logged  

I would say you should install the 2nd ign might not be nessary, however it may help with problems down the road like check engine light... and crap like that..

Yeah i think dei makes a dei 555h, or something like that doesn't require a key..

JWorm 
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Posted: August 30, 2004 at 9:01 AM / IP Logged  
DEI doesn't make a "no-key required" bypass module for your car. You can get a PKH3 from bypasskit.com that works.
Not the easiest car for a first timer.
Good luck running wires into the door for factory alarm arm and disarm. Might want to consider a HODL2 from bypasskit.com
mo12v 
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Omega hasTransponder Bypass # DB-PKH3  NO Key.............
Constant 12 voltsWHITEIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 12 voltsBLACK / YELLOWIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
StarterBLACK/ WHITEIGNITION SWITCH AHRNESS *
Dome LightGREEN/ RED (-)GREEN CONN. BEHIND FUSEBOX
Trunk Pin SwitchBLUE/BLACK (-)DRIVER KICK PANEL REAR BODY HARNESS
Parking LampRED / BLACK (+)WHITE CONN ABOVE FUSEBOX
Power LockPINK/BLACKGREEN CONN LEFT SIDE OF FUSEBOX
Power UnlockPINK/BLUETEST FROM PASSENGER SWITCH
* Installing A Starter Kill Relay At The Ignition Switch Harness Before The Starter Wire Enters The Driver Side Fuse Block May Cause A "Check Engine" Light To Come On. Starter Wire Should Be Accessed After Fuse Block.
Window UpD\ RED / BLK P\ RED / BLU D\ RED / WHT P\ RED / WHT @ EACH #211
Window DownF/ RED / YEL F/ RED R/ BLU/BLK R/ BLU/BLK MOTOR *
Ign Key Warn
Trunk ReleaseYELLOW /GREEN (+)DRIVER KICK PANEL #231
OEM HornGREEN/ YELLOW (-)STEERING COLUMN HARNESS
Headlights
OEM Alarm Arm
OEM Alarm Disarm
* Due To Multiplexing Window Wires Must Be Accessed At Each Window Motor But All Are Reverse Rest At Ground Type Circuits
Tach SignalBLUE/REDECM/PCM AT CENTER CONSOLE *
Ignition #2BLACK/ REDIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition #3
AccessoryWHITE/ REDIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Neutral Safety
Brake LightWHITE/ BLACK (+)SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
Reverse Light
Rear Window Defrost
. * Passenger Side Panel Of Console- WHITE 31 Pin Connector PIN #25
MO
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threesquare 
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Posted: August 31, 2004 at 1:35 PM / IP Logged  

JWorm wrote:
DEI doesn't make a "no-key required" bypass module for your car. You can get a PKH3 from bypasskit.com that works.
Not the easiest car for a first timer.
Good luck running wires into the door for factory alarm arm and disarm. Might want to consider a HODL2 from bypasskit.com

hello, thanks for your help

i check bypasskit.com  and it look good.  but i can't order straight, only dealer are allowed. 

my compustar have all of the functions from HODL2, correct me if i'm wrong.
what is the advantages/differents in HODL2 and PKH3
beside the obvious xtra functions?
i rather use all the feature in my compustar, then buying another black plastic box.
i check other site  and found  the same unit same product code (pkh3) but with a different brand.

like OMEGA

http://www.dragondistributing.com/omegaalarmaccess.htm
bottom page
CODE Alarm
http://www.audiooutfitter.com/store/PKH3.html
CrimeStopper
http://www.theinstallationshop.com/browseproducts/Crimestopper-Honda--Acura-Type-C-(7-wires-in-connector)-Transponder-Bypass-PKH3-II.html
can you tell me where to order the right one and not some mock up model?
thanks again for your help.

snguyen 
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Posted: August 31, 2004 at 3:27 PM / IP Logged  

The reason why you would us  the HODL2 is that all the connections are made inside the vehicle, otherwise you have to run wires into the door for your factory arm and disarm.  Getting the two wires into the door boot is not that easy!   This way you can connect the wires from your compustar  to the HODL2.  The PKH3 is bypass module for your honda. 

shawn

threesquare 
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Posted: August 31, 2004 at 4:22 PM / IP Logged  
snguyen wrote:

The reason why you would us  the HODL2 is that all the connections are made inside the vehicle, otherwise you have to run wires into the door for your factory arm and disarm.  Getting the two wires into the door boot is not that easy!   This way you can connect the wires from your compustar  to the HODL2.  The PKH3 is bypass module for your honda. 

shawn

okay,  in that case HODL2  is a good choice.   but the HODL2  is a bypass module just like the PKH3 right?

do you know any where i can purchase the HODL2?

thanks again.

snguyen 
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Posted: August 31, 2004 at 4:56 PM / IP Logged  

 The HODL2 is the accord doorlock and alarm interface kit.  It will interface door locks, arm/disarm, trunk....etc.  The PKH3 will allow you to bypass the transponder for you remote start.

threesquare 
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Posted: September 17, 2004 at 3:46 AM / IP Logged  

last set of questions before i start working on the alarm

the compustar brain  ask for  both  positive (+) and a negative (-) parking light output

i have both  do i need to use both or which should i use?
the diagram say that some newer vehicle require a (-) output instead of the standard (+) output.
for my 03 accord,  the (-) is found in the steering column cover and the (+) is found in a white plug above the fuse box
there are two pre-wired relays. one for the starter kill
the other for 2nd ignition, 2nd starter or 2nd accessory.
there is a constant 12v for the 2nd relay
if i connect a wire from that relay  to a (-) negative 2nd acc/ign/starter 200ma ouput wire from another connector  it'll give me a (+) trigger output on another wire in the 2nd relay

wat is all the 2nd acc/ign/starter for?  and do i need this?!  my car wiring diagram doesn't show 2nd ign/starter but it does for 2nd accesory.

compustar is asking for a (-)200ma trunk release.  this let you open the trunk with the remote.   diagram show a (+) trunk release not a (-) trunk release


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