R/S Wiring Disaster

I've trying to hook up this AstroStart 803 R/S and it's becoming a nightmare. I have the Installation Manual for it, but only give you the programming. Here's how the wiring is for 97 GrandAm.    Car----------------------R/S Red #1--------------------#1 Power output Red #2--------------------#2 Power output Orange--------------------Accessory Output(Heat&A/C) Yellow--------------------Starter Outout Pink----------------------#1 Ingnition Output White---------------------#2 Ingnition Output -----555L Passlock Module----- Red------------------Constant 12V(+) Pink------------------Pink Ing. from wiring harness Violet---------------????? Blue/Black-----------(-) output on R/S when running Black----------------to black reference wire on IPC BLACK/ White----------(-) from wiring harness when in crank possition Yellow---------------to yellow resistance wire (key side) BLACK / YELLOW---------to yellow resistance wire (IPC side) When hooked up that way, it doen't work but if I use BROWN as ACC. and passlock's violet wire hooked to PINK INGNITION, R/S works but theft sys light stays on and then when I take oven with the key, HEAT-A/C will kick off and rear window defrost comes on!!! I'm at a lost now!!!!! How do I get everything to work right????? HELP!!!!CementBrain

Did I not give you the actual installation manual last week? Regards EVIL Teken . . .

The wiring diagram I got from here was for the DEI 555L & I got 4 different diagram for my car. The one for the car, I'm pretty sure is right is the last one I got. Constant 12 volts ----- RED & RED                 IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Ignition 12 volts ------ PINK                             IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Starter                  YELLOW                            IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Dome Light                  L GRN/BLK & L BLUE (-)      AT CONVENIENCE CENTER MODULE * Trunk Pin Switch      ORANGE / BLACK (-)      AT LIGHT IN TRUNK Parking Lamp      BROWN (+)                            AT LIGHT SWITCH OR DRIVER KICK PANEL Power Lock                  L BLUE                            EITHER KICK Power Unlock      WHITE                            PANEL * Convenience Center Module Located Behind Driver Dash To Left Of Steering Column. L GREEN/ BLACK (-) Covers Driver Door, L BLUE (-) Covers All Other Doors. Diode Isolation Needed, Cathode (Band) Side Of Diode Faces OEM Wires. Positive Pulse Door Lock Accessories Window Up                 D\ D BLUE P\ L BLUE D\ D GREEN P\ L GREEN @ MAIN SWITCH       Window Down      F/ BROWN F/ TAN R/ PURPLE R/ PURPLE       Ign Key Warn      L GREEN (-)                                STEERING COLUMN HARNESS Trunk Release      BLACK (+)                               AT OEM KEYLESS MODULE IN TRUNK * OEM Horn                 BLACK (-)                               STEERING COLUMN HARNESS                Headlights                 YELLOW (+)                   AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH OEM Alarm Arm      N/A                                          NO OEM ALARM PRESENT OEM Alarm Disarm      N/A                                          IN SCHEMATICS Reversal Rest At Ground Power Window Circuit Diagram. * BLACK (+) Wire For Trunk Release Is With OEM Keyless Only. Without OEM Keyless Trunk Release Is Cable Operated. Positive Pulse Trunk Release Remote Start Tach Signal                           WHITE                   AT POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE * Ignition #2                           ORANGE                   IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS (HEAT/AC) Ignition #3                           WHITE                   IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS ** Accessory                           BROWN                   IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS Neutral Safety                      ORANGE / BLACK (-)       AT CONVENIENCE CENTER MODULE *** Brake Light                           L BLUE (+)                  AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL Reverse Light              L GREEN (+)                  PASSENGER KICK PANEL Rear Window Defrost          L BLUE (+)                  AT REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER SWITCH **** * 3.1L Engine Tach Wire Is WHITE Or PURPLE / WHITE At Powertrain Control Module. Powertrain Control Module On Both Engines Located Behind Pass. Dash ** WHITE Wire Powers Instrument Cluster And Transmission Control Module. *** Convenience Center Module Located Behind Dr, Dash To Left Of Steer. Col. **** L BLUE (+) Wire Also Located At Convenience Center Module. G.M. Passlock CementBrain

The Violet wire has to go to Negative Output from your RSAs gus1 posted :Use a relay. Trigger the purple wire on the 555L with a ground during start. This should make your light go away. If your RS does NOT have a negative output for this then U will have to wire a Relay, Maybe like this:SPDT RelayPin 85 = Pink---#1 Ingnition Output Pin 86 & 87 = GroundPin 30 = Purple Wire from 555LUnless you have Outboard Relays for your RS, then you could trigger Purple wire off of the Ignition Relay GroundMO

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R/S Connectors P2-CONNECTOR 1-----**************-------------------------------Red 2-----**************-------------------------------Red(both do not cut or tap) 3-----N/A 4-----Brake(+)-------------------------------------WHITE/ Green(Input) 5-----Glow Plug or Delayed Start(+ or -)-----------ORANGE / White(Input) 6-----Output(-) when running-----------------------Dark Green(Output) 7-----Antitheft(-)---------------------------------Orange(Output) 8-----Horn(-)--------------------------------------Light Green(Output) 9-----+12V-----------------------------------------RED / White(Output)1Amp 10----Tach input----------------------------------------------BLACK/ Green 11----Ground---------------------------------------Black 12----Hood Pin Input(+ or -)N.O. or N. C.-----------------------BLACK/ Red 13----Programmable (-) output #1-------------------Brown (to control relay #1) 14----Programmable (-) output #2-------------------WHITE/ Blue(to control relay #2) 15----Programmable (-) output #3-------------------White(to control relay #3) 16----Programmable (-) output #4-------------------Purple (to control relay #4) P4-CONNECTOR 1-----Power Input--------------RED------+12V/30A (F1) supplies "Accessory-Yellow Wire" and the "Starter-Dark Blue Wire" 2-----Accessory Output---------YELLOW---Feeds vechicle accessory circuit(Heater/AC circuit) 3-----Parking light output-----GREEN----10A fuse(F3) used to feed parking lights 4-----Ignition Output----------ORANGE---Ignition circuit(MAIN) 5-----Starter Output-----------DARK BLUE--*Connects to starter circuit, output is controlled by ignition wire, also provides antitheft function. 6-----N/A 7-----Power Input--------------RED--------+12V/30A (F2) feeds Ignition-Orange Wire and Park Lights-Green wire P5 CONNECTOR Bosch type relay 1-----Common-30 2-----NC-87A 3-----NO-87 CementBrain

In the manual does it show negative output when starting?

Purple wire from 555L could be hooked up to :

6-----Output(-) when running-----------------------Dark Green(Output) or 13----Programmable (-) output #1-------------------Brown (to control relay #1) if it comes on while starting

What does this connector show in manual?

P5 CONNECTOR Bosch type relay 1-----Common-30 2-----NC-87A 3-----NO-87

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Yes, #6---Output(-) when running--used to interface with OEM antitheft devices. Activated 1 sec. before the ignition circuit, and remains until 1 sec. after ignition is shut off. I tried that, and the theft system light stays on. I have the Blue/Black from passlock hooked up there.   Blue/Black from passlock to (-)output when running on remote start. As for the P5 CONNECTOR, that IS what the manual shows. Pin #1---COMMON-30--Pin 30 of standard automotive Bosch type relay Pin #2---NC-87A---------Pin 87A of standard automotive Bosch type relay Pin #3---NO-87-----------Pin 87 of standard automotive Bosch type relayCementBrain

SPDT RelayPin 86 = Pink---#1 Ingnition Output Pin 85 = 6-----Output(-) when running-----------------------Dark Green(Output) Pin 87 = GroundPin 30 = Purple Wire from 555LMO

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What about the Blue/Black from 555L which is already connected to 6---Output(-)when running----Dark Green(Output)?? Thanks for your time and patients MOCementBrain

The violet wire must see ground during CRANK or Start. Wiring it to the ign as mo12v suggest will not get rid of your light problem. Relay: pin 85- ground out when running. pin 86- +ve start wire on rem. starter pin 30- ground pin 87- purple on 555L Just use a standard Bosch relay.... they're cheap, they work. This way, the ground will be applied only during the remote start cycle, only during crank. Putting it on during the duration as per mo12v diagram will not cure the light staying on, as it must be timed correctly.... Gus Wherever I go, that is where I end up......