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Charles_R_H 
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Posted: October 19, 2004 at 9:36 AM / IP Logged  
Just curious to see if any members are first class certified.
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Posted: October 19, 2004 at 4:42 PM / IP Logged  
I am first class security. Someone who works for my company is a master in Colorado.
Damn, I should talk my boss into paying for the test.
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Posted: October 19, 2004 at 5:13 PM / IP Logged  

I am nothing anybody master level MECP? -- posted image. 

I have no formal training anybody master level MECP? -- posted image.

I never went to any installation schools or took any courses anybody master level MECP? -- posted image.

BUT......... I will put myself up against anyone as far as experience goes that has their Master MECP. Not trying to put wits up against wits here, but I think some people put too much emphasis on a piece of paper. In my 10 + years of installation I have seen and heard some pretty scary stuff from MECP installer's that did installations for customer's that you could swear was done by a beginner installer without any formal guidance.

I'm nost sure if I've ever heard of a Master MECP installer in my area ? I'll have to ask around here to see, but I'm sure there are not any.

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Charles_R_H 
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Posted: October 20, 2004 at 9:29 AM / IP Logged  
I prefer experience over certification also.  I waited 3 years before I took the first test.  The job I might be going back to bases commision on your certification level.  I'm going to take the first class test and hopefully pass it, and then look to taking the master level test.  I know that the master level is going to be crazy hard!!!  I'm just curious about questions that they ask on it, if any one has taken it would be interesting to hear some of the questions that they ask.
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Wiseguy 
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Posted: October 21, 2004 at 1:32 PM / IP Logged  

im just mecp basic for now

i know a guy that took the master test he said he was brain dead after he took itanybody master level MECP? -- posted image.

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Wiseguy 
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Posted: October 21, 2004 at 1:33 PM / IP Logged  

Charles_R_H wrote:
I prefer experience over certification also.  I waited 3 years before I took the first test.  The job I might be going back to bases commision on your certification level.  I'm going to take the first class test and hopefully pass it, and then look to taking the master level test.  I know that the master level is going to be crazy hard!!!  I'm just curious about questions that they ask on it, if any one has taken it would be interesting to hear some of the questions that they ask.

i feel the same way experience prevails

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dxav 
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Posted: October 22, 2004 at 9:02 AM / IP Logged  
Experience is better, but that piece of paper is basic credibility. Remember, a certification test cannot test EVERYTHING for any particular level. It just means you understand basic concepts at that level.
I have no certification, but have about 8+ Years experience. Because I value my customer's opinions, and satifaction, my installs tend to be much better than some of the local shops. Well, the ones that employ several 'kids', doing it part time, still in HS; just trying to earn a couple bucks and to be able to 'hook their friends up'.
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Posted: October 22, 2004 at 1:57 PM / IP Logged  
I too hire by experience. That piece of paper cost me alot of money to have airbags replaced. I hired someone because of that MECP piece of paper and found out the hard way that it is only a piece of paper. I have 15+ years and will never hire because of MECP again.
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hagmanti 
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Posted: October 22, 2004 at 8:53 PM / IP Logged  
Experience is great. But MECP certifications suggest that the person will at least have been exposed to the why wiring too many speakers in parallel will blow your amp, how to calculate resistance (door locks and security!) w/ unequal resistors in parallel, and how to properly tune an amp. None of this makes a great installer; installation is about a lot of things other than that, and you can do a heck of a lot of stuff in the real world w/o any understanding of the theory behind what you're doing. And it's certainly true that most reasonably intelligent people will pick up most of that theory given enough time doing...
But I have to say that if I was choosing between two equally experienced installers (and I wasn't allowed to see some of their previous work), I'd choose the one w/ MECP cert over the one w/o.
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Posted: October 24, 2004 at 11:34 AM / IP Logged  
How do you blow and airbag!? I just don't understand?
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