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Mad Scientists

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Posted: October 24, 2004 at 1:59 PM / IP Logged

Probe airbag wiring with a 12v test light... and lots of other ways.

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Why would someone probe an airbag wire....? Strange...

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You'd be surprised man. In the new Chevy trucks..they run two yellow wires in the ignition harness. One of them is the air bag, and the other is the starter wire. Someone that wasn't paying attention could of easily cut the air bag wire thinking it was the starter wire. Or probed it testing for the starter wire.

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In the real world there are those who seek only paper backed people, who have little first hand work experience.

Then there are those who have no formal education to back up what they know, or can do.

It really comes down to where you are employed, what the companies technical mandate is.

And hopefully, they will find a happy medium as to what is really important, for them.

In our field, we require equal amounts of both, education and hands on application(s).

But none of that matters without one good working brain !!

I know alot of techs in my company who are extremely book smart, but cant trouble shoot anything in the field. Then there are those who are very field smart, but couldnt read a schematic if their lives were on the line.

Come's down to balance, and common sense.

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NowYaKnow

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I was first class MECP certified way back in the 1900's.. ( 1999 anybody master level MECP? - Page 2 -- posted image.

) I've recently recertified, but only at the basic level for right now. Funny part is the MECP test hasn't changed since then, cars have. A good concept but fumbled badly by MECP. As mentioned by the wise one above, a decent understanding of electricity and common sense will get you further than that piece of paper ever will. However I have always preached that it is a big plus in getting your foot in the door, so I would recommend anyone wanting to become an installer to get certified. I guess MASTER level would be kinda cool though..

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Posted: October 25, 2004 at 11:48 PM / IP Logged

There's those word again.... " common sense " anybody master level MECP? - Page 2 -- posted image. . I hate it when people use these words so loosely. Common sense for one person is totally different than the next person because we can't have shared common life experiences with one another. This expectation of knowing what is "common sense" is irrational and unobtainable.

I will gather the meaning of common sense when I find it and post it on this post or a new one. Sorry, just needed to vent .

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common sense (n.)

1. Sound judgment not based on specialized knowledge; native good judgment

2. Ordinary good sense or sound practical judgment.

3. The way of looking at things apart from technical or special training

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When you guys passed the MECP test did you trully study the entire book thoroughly?

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Posted: October 26, 2004 at 1:52 PM / IP Logged

I am Master certified. I have been noticing that it is a common misconception that just because some one is MECP certified (at any level) that they automatically know how to work on cars.

I have over nine years experience at a Big Box store and have installed thousands of pieces of audio equipment and alarms/remote starts.

I am also a proctor for my region and a major proponent of MECP. While it is true that most customers have no clue what MECP is, once you take a few minutes to explain it to them you have increased public awareness about our industry and set them hopefully at ease.

But I digress. Book learnin' (MECP) is no substitute for hands on experience. However understand that having knowledge about the principles of why that stereo works the way it does is truly valuable.

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There is no way that we as people growing up in different families, doing different jobs, having different experiences, learning in different schools, that we can have the same common sense. We may share some common life experiences, but there is a good chance that even those are different. There is nothing common about common sense.

A better way to express this common sense feeling is to express it as a logical thought process due to consideration of some common training that was attended or supplied. Even then, there is no guarantee that they retained the same info. that you might have.

Jeff

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