anybody master level MECP?

Hence the common thread which all great companies follow. Formal education, coupled with years / hours of hands on experience. Just because you go to school and learn all the information, does not mean you can apply that knowledge. Just because you have 999999999 hours under your belt does not, by default make you qualified either. The bottom line is this. . . We are not talking about plumbing, heating, or other trades. The question being posed is by a person who is looking to specialize into the 12 volts areana. So with that in mind, the short answer is this. Education in any form is invaluable. But temper that knowledge in a mannner which can be applied in a practical manner, keeping the electrical basics, and sound installation practices in all that you do. MECP, is great to standardize our industry, it isn't, nor will it ever be the final say as to whether you get a job, or whether you are great at it. Everyone learns by doing, and in doing so, hopefully the fruits of your labor will be noticed and appreciated in our field. Regards EVIL Teken . . . Knowledge is power. But only if you apply that knowledge in a positive way, which promotes positive results in others.

EVIL Teken . . .

Teken wrote: H MECP, is great to standardize our industry, it isn't, nor will it ever be the final say as to whether you get a job, or whether you are great at it.

It is though. Some places will not hire without the MECP Certificate.

Jeff

Velocity Custom Home Theater

Mobile Audio/Video Specialist

Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Well, that is to be expected really. Nobody in a technical field these days gets hired on, unless they know someone, or has struck some really good luck. The 12 volt industry has changed, and in general is alot better, then years past. But, a true balance must be found to each situation and person who comes walking into the door. As the other member said, it looks alot better on paper, and unfortunately, that is only thing that gives you the edge over the also rands. Jeff, in your situation you are a small company, and as you have stated in the past you are self taught. Your view and standards would be more open, as would your acceptance of someone who does not have any formal training or MECP, etc. But I am sure that you would be asking alot of basic and pertinant Q's to the potential candidate, to show you really what he / she knows with their brains and hands. Does this make it fair??? Oppose to the person who has a piece of paper?? I can tell you from first hand experiece, that when someone puts you on the spot to do what is taught in school, either you know how to, or you freeze. That's why education and hands on experience is expected, and what makes the difference. At the end of the day it comes down to the employer, and what standards they have set out. In my field, our mandate and standards are based on ISO, and Industrial applications, and nothing you do will get you in the door, unless you have that piece of paper. Knowledge is power. But only if you apply that knowledge in a positive way, which promotes positive results in others.

EVIL Teken . . .