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fsjad1 
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Posted: November 02, 2004 at 2:16 PM / IP Logged  

I just finished an install of an APS-996A in my Dodge Ram this weekend and it has worked flawlessly so far. As my next project, I'm installing the same in an '04 Envoy for my wife. Lurking around in this forum I found that I needed a security bypass ( passlock II) and a transponder. I bought an all in one unit the GMDL-BP to do the job.

#1, any tips from anyone who has installed security or remote Start on an Envoy your tips would be greatly appreciated. Esp, a wiring diagram.

#2, On this GMDL-BP module, it requires a "negative ground output when running (remote start installs only)" for operation. I've searched the product literature on the APS-996A and I've not found an output to do the task. I see a ground for 1.5s before start, or one for during crank or after start but none for "when running". Am I missing something? Is there another route?

sparkie 
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There should be a light blue wire from the APS 996 that it labeled third ignition. This is a negative out when running wire which is used to activate the interface module. Make sure that you get an updated module, as early versions of that module didn't work on the Envoys.
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fsjad1 
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Thanks Sparky. The module has its hardware and software version # on it. H2 S4. Do you know if its the correct one?

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That should be a up to date version. The newest version that we have is the V.H2.S5.D2 versions. The original versions are v.H1.S1.D1
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You can check the software version at www.bypasskit.com/manual.aspx?prodid=GMDL-BP&catid=14 It looks like you have a newer version. Also, don't tie the module into the dome light trigger. My wife has an 03 Trailblazer that has the domelight trigger and I used a similar model. Anytime I arm the alarm while the domelight is still on (if I just closed the door), the 2-way remote on my unit tells me the door is open. It's just annoying knowing it isn't done right. Pick up all 4 door triggers and diode isolate each.

12volts red (40A), RED / white (40A)  +  ignition harness
Starter yellow  +  ignition harness
Ignition pink  +  ignition harness
Power Lock use Directed module 455G    
Notes: If Directed module 455G is not available, refer to DirectFax document 1053.
Power Unlock see power lock    
Lock Motor gray  5wi driver door module in door
Unlock Motor tan  5wi driver door module in door
Disarm Defeat tan  5wi fuse box under left rear seat
Parking Lights+ brown  +  fuse box under left rear seat
Parking Lights- gray/black  -  switch or BCM, tan plug, pin E5
Notes: The BCM is attached to the fuse box under the left rear seat.
Hazards white  -  steering column
Turn Signal(L) dk. green  +  steering column
Turn Signal(R) lt. green  +  steering column
Door Trigger gray/black  +  fuse box under left rear seat
Notes: To avoid dome light delay, use the separate door trigger wires. The LF door is gray/black (-) at the driver door module in the door. The RF door is BLACK/ white (-) at the passenger door module in the door. The LR door is lt. blue/black (-), and the RR door is lt. GREEN/ black (-). The rear door trigger wires are at the fuse box under the left rear seat. Use all four wires and diode isolate each.
Dome Supervision comes on with disarm    
Trunk/Hatch Pin common with door trigger wire    
Notes: To avoid dome light delay, use the separate trigger wires at the liftgate module in the liftgate. The liftgate is pink/black (-), and the glass hatch is purple (-). Use both wires and diode isolate each.
Hood Pin pink/black (export only)  -  switch or BCM, tan plug, pin E6
Notes: The BCM is attached to the fuse box under the left rear seat.
Trunk/Hatch Release N/A    
Power Sliding Door N/A    
Factory Alarm Arm arms with 455G    
Factory Alarm Disarm disarms with 455G    
Disarm No Unlock lt. green (if no 455G)  -  driver door module in door
Tachometer white  ac  PCM
Notes: 4.2L: The PCM is attached to the driver side of the engine. Tach is in the blue plug, pin 49.
5.3L: The PCM is near the lower front driver side of the engine. Tach is in the green plug, pin 10.
Horn Trigger BLACK / YELLOW to black  -  column or BCM, tan plug, pin E12
Notes: The BCM is attached to the fuse box under the left rear seat.
Memory Seat 1 white  +  driver door module in door
Memory Seat 2 purple  +  driver door module in door
Memory Seat 3 N/A  +  
Bypass/Transponder in 04 Envoy -- posted image.
Immobilizer Bypass Module:Required: YesType: Passlock 2Part #: 555L or 555T
Notes: The Passlock 2 wire colors are yellow, ORANGE / black (to black), and RED / white (not used).

The wire that is ground after start = ground while running. 

You can do it!
fsjad1 
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Posted: November 03, 2004 at 11:35 AM / IP Logged  

Awesome! Thanks for all the help.

fsjad1 
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Posted: November 08, 2004 at 11:50 AM / IP Logged  

Thanks again for the help. I finished the install on the envoy and the wiring diagram was very helpfull but I want to add a couple of things.  I didn't add in all the security connections, I really only wanted the remote start for cold weather. Also, reguarding the wiring diagram above, There is a second ignition wire "white" at the steering column. If your an amature installer like me DO NOT mess with the fuse box under the rear seat if you can help it, sensitive stuff back there. Finally, the parking lights and headlights can be very easily accessed at the light switch. They are (-) actuated. Also, for remote start, the (+) for break status is at the break switch.

A little time consuming but its done & the "wife approval factor" is high, especially now that its dropping to 0 F here in Anchorage.


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