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DYohn 
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Posted: December 03, 2004 at 3:24 PM / IP Logged  
Remember the discussion a while back about monster cables and other "high end" interconnects?  HERE's a fun article on the topic from Rod Elliot (I am a big fan of his) that would make good reading for anyone interested.  Cheers.
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Posted: December 03, 2004 at 4:37 PM / IP Logged  
GREAT article... Ima spend some of my own money, and stand in front of the KimberKable room at the CES and pass that bad boy out! Thanks DYohn!
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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:)  Just be careful you don't get "escorted out" by two big guys in black t-shirts!
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nice article, I enjoyed the opening!
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Posted: December 03, 2004 at 5:02 PM / IP Logged  
Haemphyst - That mean anything to you? It ain't just an "online" name! LOL 5'9" 270 and I bench (OK, USED to bench - a while ago, I might add...) 425... I just hope it ain't FOUR guys in black t-shirts...
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Posted: December 04, 2004 at 12:23 PM / IP Logged  
I always assumed the "physt" part of yur name was short for "physicist."  Esoteric cables -- posted image.
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I wish i would read this a week ago it would have saved me alot of money
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Wow....am I ever angry with my brain for lying about what my ears told me. I can't totally agree with this article, and many others at our shop (not salespeople) will tell you this article is not completely accurate. I am going to use AudioQuest cables in my MDX, as I have actually heard a difference. We are a Monster dealer, and I have run Monster in my car for quite some time. Our demo board is wired with Monster I401XLN cables. I was doing a demo for a customer on different lines of Monster cables (from I201XLN to I401XLN) in which there is little if any audible difference. Just for kicks, I put in a set of AudioQuest Copperhead cables. I should have tried this without a customer present first, because I'm sure I had quite the dumbfounded look on my face when the music came on....I noticed a huge depth to the stage, the imaging was better, and the instruments sounded more realistic. The customer instantly said "Those are the ones I want, put them in." Even one of our installers who was walking by the room, without knowing what I was demoing, stopped by and asked what we had done to the room, as it had never sounded like this. This demo was done with good equipment (Clarion DRZ9255, MB Quart RAA2400, MB Quart QSD216 components). I don't expect anyone to just take my word for it. I know that I heard a difference, and that's all that matters to me. I don't think it's a matter of my need to spend more, as there isn't a huge price difference. To anyone who wants to hear this, if you are in the St. Louis area, contact me and I will be happy to let you hear them for yourself.
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Posted: December 10, 2004 at 2:21 PM / IP Logged  

I've been doing very high end installations (not necessarily car audio) for many years and have yet to actually hear or measure with very sensitive test equipment any difference between brands of cables, except for some signal losses in a few very inferior products.  None whatsoever.  It is all smoke and mirrors and, as the article states, in a true double-blind test there has never been any documented by measurement differences detectable by any reputable testing house.

If better quality cables made a noticable difference in your demo system I would suggest there was a problem with the original cabling or with the installation or setup.

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Posted: December 10, 2004 at 4:51 PM / IP Logged  
thanks dyohn, great article. you hav e to love how the cable business's marketing strategy closely resembles bose's, sell to rich guys who couldn't hear the difference between a clock radio and a $1,000 pair of speakers with a tube amp. its all about image these days.
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