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Lizardking 
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All I know is I used the method and it worked for me!! My system sounds incrediable, of course I'm not using cheap components.
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daze 
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Wow I cant believe out of all those posts, there was no mention of an Oscilloscope !? That is the best way possible but not everyone has one off hand !
Lizardking 
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I think the issue is getting our hands on one!! lol
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Posted: December 17, 2004 at 11:54 PM / IP Logged  
daze, this would be a good thread, then, to describe setting gain using an oscilloscope...doncha think?  Can it be done without using the RTA that haemphyst and DYohn touched on?
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The best products for you mobile electronics guys would be the handheld O-scopes. They are comming down in price and easy to use.

The Fluke color triple trace is my favorite, but at $800-$1000 I won't be purchasing that anytime soon.

I have an old school HP dual trace scope and some old school 1960's sound generator. Both of these items put together take up a bit of space, I would need a cart to use them with a car. I use these to test amps inside for now, someday I will upgrade to something more compact and modern.

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Posted: December 19, 2004 at 9:43 PM / IP Logged  
stevdart wrote:

haemphyst wrote:
OK, I'll give in...

Now that'll be the day!   lol  

Sweet... I made the list...
haemphyst wrote:
...Personally, I use an oscilloscope to discover the clipping point of the headunit, set the gain of the amplifier for the LEAST efficient speaker in the system, running the amp to JUST where the driver starts to complain at the resonant frequency of that driver, then I use an RTA to set the gains on the remaining drivers in the system.
I always use an o-scope, especially for the first gain stage, which is the head-unit, then I follow the above steps to set the rest of the gains in the system...
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
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