Is JL the best sub?

JL Audio does not "give there products out to internet sites," (at least they say they don't; who knows, eh?). For that matter, ALL COMPANIES could be lumped into that very broad statement, other than those that are not as well known and/or don't have the capability to meet mass-market demands. So let's not get carried away and start misleading people with statements like that (even if it was unintentional).

I have 3 10W6's (old style, not the new V2's or Ae's) and I couldn't be happier. DYohn said it best - no such thing as the best...

So nice of you to say good things about JL Audio, Steven. Even though your company is a competitor, you have constantly shown much class when discussing other brands of audio gear and always try to answer questions clearly and concisely. You could bash other brands and peddle your companies stuff instead, but you don't - thanks for keeping it real and "unbiased." You are a true asset to this forum.

Its all on your prefence i coudlnt afford to purchase the sub i wanted (ADIRE AUDUO 12inch SHIVA), I got a deal 200CDn for a 12 Jl12w3V2 (300RMS) in  nice ported box i couldnlt be happier it pounds liek  a mofo with 200Watts Rms goign to it i couldnt be happier. Anyways JL is not the BEST thier is much better out their or the same that is LOWER in price. JL is pretty darn good but just pricy thats all if your rich do w/e you want buy your JL W7 you will be happy...

PS Does anyoen have a link were someone has compared the Jl 12w7 to a brahma. im trying to convince a buddy to buy a brahma instead of the W7. thanks

JL makes great product.  They are a reliable name in car audio, possibly the most reliable there is out there.  True, they are very expensive to the average consumer.  But, you have to ask yourself, how much do you actually know about these other companies?  How long have they been around?  Will they last as JL has because of their dedication to constantly improving their product?  What other manufacturers always being new, and improved stuff to the table that also have the reliability as JL?  While I can't justify the average consumer going out and dumping loads of money into JL stuff, I can say that they won't be disappointed if they do.  As for the W7 being compared to other woofers? I'd compare them to an IDMAX, a Brahma, among several woofers.  The main qualm with JL is the price.  Were they not so expensive, I'd be willing to bet for the performance and reliability that they offer, the vast majority of people would be running them. 

the best sub is the one your ear likes.

ive had people come in looking strictly for jl and i ask why, There words are my friend says there the best. Then i ask what type of subs there friend has and what do you know, they dont have jl.

There is No Best sub, without knowing specifics, how much room, Box size, Depth, Diffrent subs are made for diffrent reasons.

I remember Years ago, everyone would put down Pioneer Impp woofers, In the right box They Slammed, 90% of the people wouldnt put them in the right box, When people heard my car they were like what do you have in here, i would pop the trunk and they would just be like theres more then these 2 woofers.  The key was Proper box and proper power.

Thanks Paradigm.  Since I work for Adire, I do have to be careful what I say about other companies as I represent Adire.  Plus we work a great deal with other companies behind the scenes in designing and production of their speakers.  I would hate for my comments to effect that in any way.

I do however think there can be a best speaker.  However a definition would be in order in the beginning.  The subs mentioned seemed to be all SQ subs, so I was basing my comments on that.  Now unfortunately SQ is subjective, so I like to take an objective approach to it.  Which subs provide the lowest distortion and with the flattest frequency response in a decent sized enclosure and do this at reference (or beyond) output levels?  Well with the technology used in our XBL^2 motor and JL's design, they will have less distortion than any other motor on the market previously.  That is why I believe these subs are the best.  However subjectively we have found that some people are so used to distortion in their subs, they don't like the sound of our drivers.  It doesn't sound as loud or as "full" to them because there are harmonic peaks missing that they are used to hearing.  I believe these people like their music more "surreal", which of course isn't a bad thing.  

Even Consumer Reports assumes the reader is looking for an objective opinion about the items they are reporting on, and not taking into account the subjective side of things.

Steven Kephart

Adire Audio