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Jschult3 
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Posted: January 16, 2005 at 3:39 PM / IP Logged  

Your car probably has a delay when you close dorr right? Thats why the door symbol flashes. It's reading the delay. Don't worry as soon as the circuit closes the 791 figures it out and arms that zone.

Start the car with a key, then press and hold the valet button until the led light comes on solid. Then the 791 has learned the tach. If thats not working make sure your DMM reads 0 vac when the car is off and 1-8vac when running. You'll know you have the right wire if you rev up the engine and vac reading changes.

Honda/Acura use a blue wir for their tach. If your not on the right one the RS won't work right. Check out the install instructions where it talks about "shutdown diagnostics" the system will flash the led "x" amount of times and that corresponds to a chart in the manual that will help you identify what went wrong.

Did you ground the BLACK/ white stripe wire via the toggle switch. W/O the ground the RS won't even try to crank the starter.

Jeff
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andherlaughter 
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Posted: January 16, 2005 at 4:28 PM / IP Logged  

ok well i got the tach signal to be recognized.....

then i thought i had the wrong starter wire, so i changed it, and it still doesnt work, but everything still turns on, just the engine wont crank....

and yea i did ground the wire for the toggle switch, i made sure to do that, cuz i accidently disconnected it, then event the accesory lights wouldnt come on with the RS.....so its not the toggle switch....

what wires on the smaller harness would make it not work??

andherlaughter 
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Posted: January 16, 2005 at 4:32 PM / IP Logged  

(crap sorry i still cant edit)

my other problem is my doors are still screwing up....they dont set off the alarm when opened OR closed....i was sitting in the car with the alarm armed, and opening the door did nothing to set off the alarm....

so theres a problem of some kind with my door wiring i think, but the only wire to hook up for the doors was the door pin, and i already double checked that connection.....

andherlaughter 
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Posted: January 16, 2005 at 6:02 PM / IP Logged  

ok so now i discovered what my problem is.....the remote start works but i have to have my clutch pressed in (which i forgot was the sole reason i was doing this install myself....) sooo now i need help with a clutch bypass, and go easy on me, i have very little knowledge with relays, so you'll have to help me out here......

and i know this item wasnt meant for a standard transmission....no need to remind me

Jschult3 
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Posted: January 16, 2005 at 7:55 PM / IP Logged  

Here's what you do,

Pin 85=ground

pin 86= purple wire from RS relay satellite(energizes relay only when starter is ingaged)

pin87= side "A" of clutch switch

pin 30= side "b" of clutch switch

pin 871= not used.

This design allows the clutch to be bypassed only for the moment the starter is turning on. It will for a moment connect the clutch wires together. This is the equivalent of sticking two wire in each wire slot and completely bypassing the clutch all the time.

Let me know how it work out

Good Luck,

Jeff
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andherlaughter 
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ok this is what i did, i actually just went and figured it out before i saw your post.....
on the viper there is a wire that delivers a 200ma output whenever the RS is engaged, it says it was to be used for bypassing factory alarms, but since i didnt have a factory alarm, i just used this wire to bypass my clutch, and it worked like a charm......so whenever the RS is engaged it delivers the power needed to tell my system that the clutch is engaged, and when im starting with the key, i still have to push the clutch in for safety
Jschult3 
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Posted: January 17, 2005 at 2:25 PM / IP Logged  

Nice Job!

Glad to hear it's all working for ya

Jeff
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