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Alpine Guy

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Posted: April 12, 2005 at 5:04 PM / IP Logged

Doing a 2002 Dodge Caravan:

#1 Unlock wont work, my resistor is 6.6k ohm, is that off too much from the 6.5k ohm reccomended?

#2 Parking lights are multiplex, my auto start schematics say a 3k ohm resistor, but does not list the wire or where it is. What colour and where is it?

#3 I found the "yellow" 2nd starter wire, but could not find the 1st starter wire, i believe it was PURPLE / brown, can i get a confermation on the starter wire colours and where they should be located.

Thanks

2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.

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Posted: April 12, 2005 at 6:10 PM / IP Logged

Constant 12 volts	L BLUE	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS *
Ignition 12 volts	PINK/WHITE	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS **
Starter	YELLOW (+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Light	YELLOW/WHT (+)	PIN 33 OF 34 PIN CONN. AT B.C.M.
Trunk Pin Switch	VIOLET/ORANGE (-)	PIN 29 OF 34 PIN CONN.AT THE B.C.M.
Parking Lamp	WHT/BRN(RESISTOR SYS.)	AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH (SEE TECH NOTES)
Power Lock	VIOLET/D GREEN	AT B.C.M.LOWER LEFT OF STEERING ***
Power Unlock	SINGLE WIRE SYSTEM	COLUMN IN PIN 21 WHT 34 PIN CONN.

* All Wires Are 20 Gage.L BLUE Fused At 10 Amps. For main Power Connection Connect To BROWN / RED Or WHITE/ RED Fused At 20 Amps At 6Pin Conn. At B.C.M. ** Ignition Wire Controls All Accessories. *** Chassis Ground Thru A 5.3k To Lock And Chassis Ground Thru A 2k Ohm Resistor To Unlock. ( Connector Is Third Up From Bottom Of BCM)

Single Wire Resistor Door Locks

Accessories
Window Up	D\ORG/LT GRN P\ORG/TN D\ORG/D BLU P\ORG/GY @ MAIN SWITCH
Window Down	F/ORG/WHT F/ORG/D GRN R/ORG/L BLU R/ORG/D GRN
Ign Key Warn	VIOLET/BROWN (-)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Trunk Release	HATCH RELEASE:VIOLET/	TAN (-) THRU 1.69k RESISTER @ BCM
OEM Horn	D GREEN/ VIOLET (-)	STEERING COLUMN
Headlights	WHT/YEL WHT/BR AT	HEADLAMP SWITCH RESISTANCE VALUE *
OEM Alarm Arm	VIOLET/LT BLUE (-)	PIN 14 AT 34 PIN CONNECTOR,RESISTERS
OEM Alarm Disarm	VIOLET/LT BLUE	ARE THE SAME AS LOCK & UNLOCK BUT **

* 788-809 Ohms ** Apply In The Opposite Direction.

Reversal Rest At Ground Power Window Circuit

Right Slider Open/Close Chassy Ground Thru 3900 Ohm Resistor On Glossy VIOLET / YELLOW at B.C.M Right Of Steering Column. Hood Ajar Switch - VIOLET/LIGHT BLUE (-) Pin 30 White 34 pin Conn. At B.C.M.

Remote Start
Tach Signal	D BLUE/D GREEN	PIN 11 GRAY/BLACK 40 WAY CONN.P.C.M.*
Ignition #2		See Note Below **
Ignition #3
Accessory
Neutral Safety	WHITE/ LT GREEN	PIN 9 OF 34 PIN CONNECTOR AT BCM
Brake Light	WHITE/ TAN (+)	AT SWITCH
Reverse Light	WHITE/ LT GREEN (+)	PIN 9 OF 34 PIN CONNECTOR AT BCM
Rear Window Defrost

* Power Control Module Located Left Front Corner Of Engine Compartment. Ignition Input To Keyless:PINK/WHITE

** VIOLET/BROWN and VIOLET/ORANGE Must See 180 OHM Resistor Between Them During Start Due To Multiplexing.

Immobilizer Bypass Diagram.

This Vehicle Has A Resistored Park Light System.The WHITE/ BROWN Wire Must Be Cut And A relay And Resister Must Be Used. Pin 85 To Ground Pin 86 To The WHITE Wire Of The Alarm.Pin 87A Switch Side Of WHITE/ BROWN Wire,Pin 30 BCM Side Of WHITE/ BROWN Wire. Pin 87 To One Side Of A 5.8k Ohm Resistor,The Other Side Of The Resistor To Ground. There Is A WHT/DK.BRN In The Rear Harness (Driver Kick) That Is A Pos 12v To The Tag Lights.
Door Lock/Unlock Wire Located On The Third Connector Up From The Bottom. ***********Door Lock And Bypass Module Available *************
OMEGA # DB-CHDL-1BPK

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Alpine Guy

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Posted: April 12, 2005 at 7:53 PM / IP Logged

** VIOLET/BROWN and VIOLET/ORANGE Must See 180 OHM Resistor Between Them During Start Due To Multiplexing.

Where are these wire located? Ignition harness?

WHITE Wire Of The Alarm

Im assumeing that is the positive parking light output from alarm?

Thanks for the info mo12V , i hope to get the customer back his vehicle tomorrow morning.

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** VIOLET/BROWN and VIOLET/ORANGE....@ Ignition Switch Harness

WHITE Wire Of The Alarm = Parking Light Wire from your RS

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Posted: April 12, 2005 at 8:23 PM / IP Logged

Ok, Ill give you some secrets. The lock wire needs to be a 5.3k to ground. Unlock needs to be a 2k. Don't have to be dead on but close is good. Easy enough. The 180 ohm resistor is for the violet brown. That goes to ground during start only. Now for my best kept secret. Instead of flashing the parking lights and wasting your relay and resistor the easiest thing to do is flash the hazards. It is the bottom plug on the BCM and the wire color is white with a dark blue stripe. It is a simple negative trigger. The hazards are brighter and work like a champ. No wasting time with five wiring the park lights. I put a remote start today in an 02 Town and Country which is the same vehicle. I used the DEI 561t and the 555c bypass. The vehicle is very easy to do. The only extra I had to do was the factory alarm bypass during remote start. You have to use a 9.1k resistor to ground at the BCM. Good luck.

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Posted: April 12, 2005 at 8:49 PM / IP Logged

So if i use the hazards, when remote starting wont they constatly flash for 15 min straight?

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Posted: April 12, 2005 at 9:27 PM / IP Logged

You can use the BROWN wire at the dirver's kick panel as well for the (+) parking light. Works everytime.

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Alpine Guy

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Posted: April 13, 2005 at 7:29 PM / IP Logged

This van has been nothing but a pain in the but! I got everything done and working except the security bypass. I have the kind of bypass where the antenna wraps around the ignition 3-6 times,,whell i did that and it gave me the confirmation that it read the code, but when i remote start it does the old start and die meaning the bypass isn't sending the code. (everything works fine when the key is inserted when remote starting) Where exatcly should i wrap the antenna? I have it wraped around the factory security plastic piece that reads the factory key, should i put it infront of it?

As you can tell i haven't done alarm/starters for a year, i had a security specialist do that work, but he moved on.

2003 Chevy Avalanche,Eclipse CD7000,Morel Elate 5,Adire Extremis,Alpine PDX-4.150, 15" TC-3000, 2 Alpine PDX-1.1000, 470Amp HO Alt.

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Posted: April 14, 2005 at 8:27 AM / IP Logged

Is the ground out when running wire connected to the bypass? Sounds like it might be the case. If you wrap the wire around the factory key cylinder it will do. Sometime you have play with it just a bit to get to the sweet spot.

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Alpine Guy

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Posted: April 14, 2005 at 9:07 AM / IP Logged

Yup, ground out is connected, and tested to be working. I guess i'll fiddle with the antenna more.

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