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khsonic03 
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Posted: July 10, 2005 at 11:21 PM / IP Logged  

Hello.  I've done a search, but didn't find too much on the issue.  I have a 10w7 that I am making an enclosure for.  I currently have the mold done and it is 1/4-3/8" thick and does not flex with the thumb test (I would feel comfortable standing on it).  I keep reading how important it is to make sure the box doesn't flex, but my question is this:  When I stretch the Fleece over the MDF ring and glue it onto the back of the mold, and then resin it, what should I do about the seams?  I feel like they are going to be the weakest part of the enclosure, and if I try to lay down too much glass at the seam (between the fleece and the mold), it will get too thick and not fit in the trunk.  What should I do to make sure my sub doesn't blow the box at the seam?  I don't think I will be able to access the edges from inside the box either because of the construction.   Here is a pic of what I already have done (before the 8 layers of glass).  I also included one of my amp rack without the false floor on it.  BTW-this is my first time at this.

Fleece to Fiberglass + Pics -- posted image.

Fleece to Fiberglass + Pics -- posted image.

khsonic03 
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Here's another one of the amp fans I installed--not really related to the post, but opinions/comments are welcomed.  Thanks in advance!

Fleece to Fiberglass + Pics -- posted image.

abovestock 
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That install looks awesome by the way. As for your fleece problem, all you need to do is hot glue your fleece to the edege of the box and then resin over it. When you apply your resin be sure you put lots and lots on the edege where the mold and the fleece come together in order to glue the two together. Second reach inside the box and paint resin along the entire seam where the two come together. And last, recoat the seam after step two is hard and lay down a four inch strip of mat and saturate it to hold the two together. I hope this helps a little bit. Please keep us posted with lots of pictures and good luck.
abovestock 
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Posted: July 11, 2005 at 1:08 AM / IP Logged  
Oh yea by the way, trim the box edeges before you add any fleece to get a better shape and better adhesion of the fleece.
khsonic03 
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Posted: July 11, 2005 at 7:18 AM / IP Logged  
Thanks.  Yeah, I know about trimming the edges--that pic was the only one I had (it's only about 1/16" thick in that pic).  So what you are saying is to put a 4 inch layer on the OUTSIDE, correct?  Because I don't think I will be able to reach inside after the fleece is on there.  It would be very tight.  So I guess I am still wondering, is that ONE layer around the outside seam enough to hold it together?  I am worried that the sub will blow it apart.  It just seems like I focused so hard on making the thing as thick as it is, then only having ONE or two layers around the edge; I would think it would be kinda pointless to have it so thick everywhere else, then that thin at the edges.
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Posted: July 11, 2005 at 11:12 AM / IP Logged  
OK, my $0.02.
When you resin the fleece, on the edges put some fiber matte while you're applying the resin to the fleece. This will increase the seam strength like you want
crzycreations 
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Posted: July 11, 2005 at 11:20 AM / IP Logged  

If you cant get inside the box to paint resin on all the seams mabye you could mix some resin with body filler

and make it just thick enough so you can roll it around inside the box on the seams... just an idea

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khsonic03 
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Posted: July 11, 2005 at 11:35 AM / IP Logged  
Hmmm.  Good ideas.  I also have Bondo glass, which is bondo w/fiberglass.  I could probably put that on the inside edges.  Should I brace the edges at all?  Are there any other special tricks?  Thanks guys!
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It looks to me like your fused your remote wire, is there a point in doing that? I have NEVER heard of doing that, but I may be wrong.
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khsonic03 
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Posted: July 11, 2005 at 2:03 PM / IP Logged  
LOL, yeah.  Safety first!  I put a relay on the remote wire from the headunit, because I was going to have so many things running off of it (didn't want to kill the factory HU).  When I bought that little distribution block, I fused everything, including the remote leads.  The fans are fused off that block as well.  I read through bcae1, and that guy stresses fusing everything, so I figured I would.
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