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pedro_h

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Posted: December 04, 2005 at 9:59 AM / IP Logged

Hello,

Dont know if this is the right section to ask this question but here's the problem:

I bought an APS25CH alarm when i was on holidays in America.

I had it installed here in Portugal where i live and no problems what so ever.

But know i've been trying to install a windows roll up kit ( to which the alarms

states it can handle it) but no universal kit here in europe seems to fit. I've

tried the cobra universal.

It seems as the signal coming from the alarm is to weak to operate the kit.It

should discharge 12v but it only sends out 1volt.

My question is : is there a specific windows kit that i can buy for this alarm (

by audiovox); or do windows roll up kits work with less voltage there and any

american kit would work. Or is it the alarm that should really send the 12v and

its broken.

And very recently the alarm seems to keep going off with no reason. Could there be a bad connection or is it just the alarm that has broken?

Thanks,

Pedro

Mike M2

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Posted: December 04, 2005 at 10:06 AM / IP Logged

If you are in need of a channel to operate the windows, they are all going to be a negative pulse. If you need 12 volts to operate the windows you will need to use a relay. Explain what wires you are trying to hook up better so we can help...

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Posted: December 04, 2005 at 10:14 AM / IP Logged

Use this diagram to reverse the polarity for the AP system :

http://www.velocitymotorsport.com/images/install_notes/N2P.jpg

This will allow you to use the (-) trigger from the AP to control a module with a (+) input.

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pedro_h

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Posted: December 04, 2005 at 10:28 AM / IP Logged

Thanks for all the quick replies

But i must state that i understand very little of car electronics/electrics. Only some little knowledge on car audio.

But let's see if we can reach a mutual point.

What my electrician told me when he was trying to install a Cobra Universal Remote Windows roll up kit was that this kit needs 12v to operate. The Prestige Alarm has an output for remote windows but it's a very weak signal. Where it should be 12v there's only 1 volt. ( dont now if its positive of negative)

This means that when i press the button to activate the remote windows roll up they only roll one or two centimeters up. The the power is not strong enough to lift the windows anymore.

If i get a relay this should be resolved? How?

Please explain in idiot terms!

Thanks again guys,

Pedro

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Posted: December 04, 2005 at 11:22 AM / IP Logged

Huh....Ok, maybe what you are getting at here is the output from the alarm is a pulse and you need it to latch or be continuous until you release the button. It's not that it's weak, just not long enough. Does this sound correct?

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pedro_h

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Posted: December 04, 2005 at 11:25 AM / IP Logged

Exactly that

It works for a few seconds and then the power goes out. If i keep pressing the button it will climb another inch or so.

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Posted: December 04, 2005 at 12:02 PM / IP Logged

Hopefully someone here can help, i won't have access to a Avox manual until i hit the shop tomarrow. Chances are he can use a different channel to give you the output you need. I believe that if he is using the dark blue wire to activate he will need to go to the gree/black instead. What button are you pushing now to activate?

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pedro_h

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Posted: December 04, 2005 at 12:16 PM / IP Logged

Mike M2 wrote:

The Audiovox Prestige has two buttons, one black and another little one in green. The green one operates the windows remote kit.

The electrician also tried using something ( capacitator? - something that holds the energy before sending it to the alarm) but it didnt work.

But the thing is that with the remote control of my alarm it only comes up one or two inches. BUT if my electrician goes to the wires and makes contact the windows will roll up beautifully.

So the problem really the strenght of the signal ( i think!)

The car is a VW if it helps ( a polo, simillar to what you call JETTA)

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Posted: December 04, 2005 at 2:04 PM / IP Logged

You need to check your owners manual and see if there are any other channels that will allow the output to stay on that wire until you let go of the button. You have tried holding the button down, right? If none of this works, you could always buy a 528T pulse timer and make it work...

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pedro_h

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Posted: December 04, 2005 at 2:52 PM / IP Logged

What's a 528T timer?

Do notice that the electrician tried to used something ( that worked has a timer) so that when i press the button the power keeps accumulating and then the signal would be stronger. But it didn't work

The 528T is something different?

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