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zbowtieman

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Posted: March 09, 2006 at 2:10 AM / IP Logged

qdaddy wrote:

how do u know pats is right if it does not start and how long has alarm been installed or did the starting problem occur directly after alarm was put in also how did u wire the pats relay bypass

Iknow the vats is right because it will remote start without the key in the ignition. This however, this is with the anit-grind freature truned off. If I turn the anti-grind on it will not remote start. Alarm has just been installed so the problem occured immediately. I cut the PURPLE / white wire going to the vats decoder and connected the key end to terminal 87a and the decoder module end to 30. I connected a resistor with the proper value to terminal 87 tying into the WHITE/ black wire. 12v constant to terminal 86 and the pink wire coming the four pin harness coming off the relay satellite.

zbowtieman

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Posted: March 09, 2006 at 2:27 AM / IP Logged

05gt wrote:

see how you have the 2nd ignition wire from the remote start brain connected to orange, change this to accessory wire from the brain and scrap the brown wire it is not needed, it might work

but the orange is neccesary for remote start in this vehicle, just a suggestion

so should I leave the pink/white 2nd ignition wire coming from the remote start satellite disconnected or should I connected it to another wire, if so which one?

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Posted: March 09, 2006 at 1:47 PM / IP Logged

don't connect it to anything, accessory wire from brain goes to orange in vehicle, and brown is not needed

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Posted: March 09, 2006 at 3:16 PM / IP Logged

did you disconnect the wires to the yellow starter wire and meter them to VERIFY that you do indeed have the violet going to the starter side etc? it sounds like you may simply have the GREEN/ violet reversed.....

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zbowtieman

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Posted: March 09, 2006 at 4:07 PM / IP Logged

05gt wrote:

don't connect it to anything, accessory wire from brain goes to orange in vehicle, and brown is not needed

05gt thanks! I'll try it today when I get off of work and let you know.

zbowtieman

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Posted: March 09, 2006 at 4:14 PM / IP Logged

kgerry wrote:

Thanks Kevin! That was my first thought also......I did in fact verify the violet is going to the starter side and the green is going to the key side.......

cntrylvr79

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Posted: March 09, 2006 at 8:50 PM / IP Logged

The relay that you used for the vats bypass how is that wired?. ONe more thing you can try, with the anti-grind programmed back on, disconnect the ribbon harness that conects the relay pack to the brain. DO you hear a click when you plug it back in? You you do then somewhere either the orange or ORANGE / black wires in that ribbon harness are grounding out.

Cause I'm So white and nerdy...

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zbowtieman

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Posted: March 09, 2006 at 9:20 PM / IP Logged

cntrylvr79 wrote:

Here's how wired the vats bypass: I cut the PURPLE / white wire going to the vats decoder and connected the key end to terminal 87a and the decoder module end to 30. I connected a resistor with the proper value to terminal 87 tying into the WHITE/ black wire. 12v constant to terminal 86 and the pink wire coming the four pin harness coming off the relay satellite to terminal 85.

I'll try to unplug the ribbon harness and see what happens.

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Posted: March 09, 2006 at 9:34 PM / IP Logged

zbowtieman wrote:

[Here's how wired the vats bypass: I cut the PURPLE / white wire going to the vats decoder and connected the key end to terminal 87a and the decoder module end to 30. I connected a resistor with the proper value to terminal 87 tying into the WHITE/ black wire. 12v constant to terminal 86 and the pink wire coming the four pin harness coming off the relay satellite to terminal 85.

I'll try to unplug the ribbon harness and see what happens.

You can also try instead of using the pink wire from the relay pack to power the vats bypass use the blue wire. That might help.

Cause I'm So white and nerdy...

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kgerry

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Posted: March 10, 2006 at 8:17 AM / IP Logged

have you tried to reverse the green / violet wires from the 791? it is slightly possible that they may have been reversed on the relay from the factory..... everything you describe suggests that it's either wired backwards or you dont have the security feature shutting off ( starter kill relay)

Kevin Gerry

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