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Posted: August 21, 2006 at 11:13 PM / IP Logged  

Iv been working in car audio at a shop for about 6 months now , we do alot of custom work but one thing Id like to start doing is recovering door inserts with sude and vinyle and such. most newer cars have little plastic welds holding the inserts on, is there an easy way to get them off and put them back on????



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Posted: August 21, 2006 at 11:45 PM / IP Logged  
What I've done in  the past is carefully cut them out.  Recover the insert then using a star washer and a short screw, screw the insert back to the door panel.  Of course that only works if the plastic weld has a hole in the center.  If they don't then I'll epoxy the insert back in.
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Posted: August 28, 2006 at 4:49 PM / IP Logged  
some door panels (hondas for example) i've been able to do inserts by removing the old material, taping off the areas you dont want to touch with masking tape, and using high strength spary adhesive, then using a small panel tool or 90 degree pick tool to pussh the edge into the seam between the insert and rest of the panel...if this isnt possible then try his idea.  i always say, another man made it, so i can modify it with some thinking
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What one of our guys likes to do whenever possible is glue or create a mount for GM plastic clips and drill a small hole for the clip and remount it that way. It's removable in the future and can still come back on.
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Posted: September 04, 2006 at 1:33 PM / IP Logged  
some door inserts also screw in an out ..
I have never personally done a insert that has to glued/epoxied back into place but i'd probbalu get
a plastic welded and re-weld the plugs that had to be drilled out to begin with thats is how 93 s10 lower inserts are but I just glassed mine and didn't have to worry about it lol .
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Posted: September 08, 2006 at 9:09 PM / IP Logged  
well I tested it on a guy at works car, he has a 95? honda del sol, the inserts were held in by the plastic welds . I used a  angle grinder and grinded them till they poped loose, recovered them and screwd it back on with some washers and 1/2 screws into the original posts they were welded to ill have pics up tom. 
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Posted: September 08, 2006 at 10:29 PM / IP Logged  

I have had to use many  methods plus the mentioned above depending on the job.  Small pop rivets in the original holes that the plasic welds ripped through.  Drill both pieces out if you must.  Keepin mind, there may sometimes be a small issue of the rivet not being flat enough after its popped, therefore you bring out the good old hammer and lightly flatten it a little at a time.  Be sure to drill out the hole even larger than the rivet, it prevents the plastic from splitting.

Also used a pneumatic plastic injecting gun (it heats a tip like a solder iron and injects plastic like a syringe, you stick the tip in the plastic so that it melts the original plastic - then you pull the trigger while you lift the needle to fill the void).

And like everyone else, just simple small pan-head shorty screws.  I even have used a staple gun like some post offices use to assemble cardboard cartons. 

BUT, nothing works as good as throwing a perfectly good boring factory interior panels away and fabricate exactly what you want.

I once tore a door apart to reform and re-design a new set of door panels.  A previous shop drilled holes to thread some wire zip ties to fasten the door panel sections.....Please do not do this!

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