cdts, focal, id?

hey evertone i need your ears and opions, have anyone used any of these?  i want to power these with 150 watts, will these handle that amount of power and still sound good?  i am going to use a ppi art a300 for them....thnx guys

and when it says rms 150 watts is that true or just an inflated number that was made up?

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=1166

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=1117

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=3945

I can assure you those CDT's will NOT take 150wrms..  I've fried out lotsa CDT mid-basses.. much more than 50wrms or so and they burn up like a cigarette. 

I mean they do sound *really* nice... really warm sound to them. 

I'd take the ID's in that group.  They look *really* nice to me.

thnx mike...sometimes i get confused because of certain brands making numbers up and i dont have the time or money to get the wrong product based on a false number....thnx boulderguy, nice ball buster    and sedate thank you for bringing up your experiances...is there any particular reason the cdt's freid? or they just dont handle lots of power in general? or that particular model line? 

i took away the focals because they dont handle lots of power...or do they and focal underrated them big time?

what am i looking to do?

i am looking for speakers that will sound clean, while being driven very loud....i guess im picturing an effect like when i drive by i can feel the bass in my gut and hear the bass, but the mids and highs are overwhelmingly there...its hard to describe it...i want alot of bass (i have 2 L7's being powered by a eclispe da7232) but i also want my mids and highs to stand out more then the bass will...

does anyone else know of any other speakers i should be looking at somewhere in the $375-425   150 watt rms range???

alpine type x?

obtw for everyone whos going to complain about me being wrong for wanting to have a lot of bass, bothering people and being inconsiderate...im the kind of guy who has it, but never uses it....

Uhh.  Actually I was running precisely 150wrms directly to EF-series midbasses from the bridged-channels of a JL Audio e6450.  They died in about 2 weeks.  In fact, I burned them up so badly that the phase plugs were burned into the speaker and the voice coil had the burned remenants of the phase plug burned onto it.  I was kinda proud of my amp.

If you actually look at the PDF's for all the CDT speakers, you'll find that many of them are the exact same magnet/motor structure attached to different cones.  Such is the case comparing the EF and HD series.  They are the exact same speaker, save the cone structure.  So I imagine you'd find the same power handling characteristics.

I'm not really sure I'd call them 'weak' speakers or anything...  putting 150 JL watts to a little midbass like that was kinda asking for it.

For aggressive componet sets, I have had the best luck with sets from JL Audio..  they aren't rated quite to 150 RMS but I've beaten VR's to death and they just ask for more.  I've heard XR's take sick amounts of power as well..

boulder, i always wanted to try the Utopias, but they always been out of my price range, hopefully soon, maybe my next system :)  and i looked at the dls in the pass, im considering those also....my problem is im deaf in one ear and mostly in the other...so if i went to some shops to hear them i probaly wont notice the diffrences that someone else would...so sadly i have to go by what people say of products (maybe thats a reason why im looking for good quality)  i think i may end up going for the id's...i still have a couple more days to decide

has anyone out there used dls speakers?

dwarren, i heard metel tweets b4 and they seemed to be a little harsh for my ears....99% of the time im not going to be playing my music loud, hell i hardly even listen to music while driving anymore(talk radio)  i just want to have the ablitly thats all....if i kept the treble down will this help kept the tweets from sounding so hard to my ears?  i suck because i want it to be bright but i dont....u know? 

sedate, one of my questions about the cdt's are what is the diffrence with all of them....i notice that one kind of speaker will have 3 differnt kinds of tweets, 3 differnt sets....so if i went with the cdt hd-62 and feed them 150 watts i should expect them not to last long?  sad, because i always wanted to try these out.....as far as jl is concerned i think im going to avoid them, for some reason i never really liked jl, i guess it has to do with my"anti-mass-marketing-everyone has them type speakers mentality"  that, and they were always priced to high...

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=1117

Get the CDT's.  They are the most "not-bright" speakers I've ever used.  Very much in contrast to other, mass-marketed companies like MBQuart or Infinity, you ought love thier natural, smooth sound.

Yea CDT has the most myriad of product lines if you look at them like that.. really they just mix and match the same motor on different cones, a couple of different xovers.. etc.  When I was running my EF's, I was running them directly, no passive xovers, no tweeters, just the speaker and an aggressive gain setting.

You'll be fine with them I'm quite sure.  After you described your listening preferences, I can't imagine anything being better for ya.  Really great sound from those, ya know... 

However, save urself $200 and get the EF series componets.  They'll sound the same.. I promise.