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2004 Tahoe with Bose, Factory Amp Wires?


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texassqueeze 
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Posted: December 12, 2006 at 9:39 PM / IP Logged  
Does anyone know what wires off the factory amp,that are right and left rear?? I am wanting to put some subs and another amp. But i also want to retain the factory stuff.  Thanks in advance, Frank R.
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stick42 
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Posted: December 12, 2006 at 10:07 PM / IP Logged  
Should be standard gmc colors. Brown+ and yellow - for left rear, and dk. blue+ and lt. blue - for right rear. these will be right at the factory amp or at the speakers themselves.
umgixxer 
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he check out this website for a plug and play device
http://www.pac-audio.com/
then do what i did and find that item on ebay
jstruckman 
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If your adding a subwoofer to the factory bose system, you need to tap into the factory subwoofer, not the rear speakers. You wont find any bass frequencies on the rear speakers.
texassqueeze 
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This damn thing doesnt have a factory sub.I am wanting to leave the deck......just wanting to add an amp and subs!! P.S where is the factory amp??? Thanks ,Frank R.
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sin0cide 
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factory amp should be just under the center console glove compartment... I am pretty sure if its the one I worked on a couple weeks ago there should be some air controls for the rear seats right behind the center console if you remove that control it should give you access to the wire harness. Don't hate me if I'm wrong :-P it could be something totally different.

StealthEs 
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It might also be at the rear driver side quater panel.

Cris
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I just finished re-doing the audio in my 2001 Tahoe with "upmarket" factory system- not the Bose system, but the nine speaker system with external amp and subwoofer in the rear left.  I made many mis-steps along the way, at times wanting to slit my wrists, so I'm hoping I can save you some trouble along the way.  I'm not a professional installer, but I am an engineer with 15+ years of hobby car-audio experience.

- I initially wanted to connect my Ipod to the factory system.  I ordered and installed one of the factory adapters (I think from PIE).  I was unhappy with the result; it required that the cassette deck was in working order, and actually ran the cassette deck (audibly) while in aux mode.  I returned the adapter.

- I installed a new Alpine head unit about a year ago using the Metra wiring harness- kept all other factory components.  This worked brilliantly- except that the remote turn-on would not reliably turn on the factory amp (especially when cold, probably due to lower battery voltage).  Intensely frustrating.

- My next plan was to replace the door speakers with aftermarket speakers, and route the headunit speaker outputs directly to the door speakers through factory wiring by locating the amp, removing it, and "shorting" the connections.  For example directly connecting the Front Left +/- Input wires to the Front Left +/- Output wires at the amp.  To access the amp behind the glove box, I had to disassemble the entire center console and dash; even then, the amp was buried so deeply in the dash that there was no way I could work on the Spaghetti-like wiring (20+ wires in the harness).  I realized that this was a foolish plan, and that I would have to run new speaker wires directly from the head unit to the doors.

- In the front doors, the rubber boot that runs from the body to the doors is simply a conduit with a large bundle of wires in the middle; there is no molex.  After 2 infuriating hours, I figured out the best (only?) way to get the new speaker wires through the boot.  There is very little extra space within the boot to pass a thick (doubled over) speaker wire through, it is a tortuous path, and the maneuver requires a lot of force.  The solution was to coax a wire coat hanger with a small loop in the end through the boot; use it to pull back a 1 yard piece of 50 lb. monofilament fishing line with a knot at either end; secure the monofilament to a single thickness of speaker wire with duct tape; then use the monofilament to pull the speaker wire through.  The first door was torture; the second door took me 10 minutes.

- In the back doors, there is a molex.  I followed the simple instructions posted on this site and it took me about 10 minutes per door.  I'd like to thank the guy who wrote those instructions; I'd have been screwed without them.

- For the sub amp, I used normal protocol to install a Profile mono sub amp under the back seat.  It fit perfectly in the center, and I can still fold the seats down when I need to.  I passed the power line and remote turn-on through the grommet behind the gas pedal, and down the drivers' side.  I ran the RCA's down the passenger side.  No sweat.

- It turns out that the factory sub enclosure is actually pretty nice.  It is a sealed enclosure made from injection molded carbon-filled plastic, but it is very heavily built; with a layer or two of Dynamat, it is dead solid.  The way it mounts to the vehicle is very nice, and it is totally hidden behind the plastic panel in the rear.  I got an 8" Dayton Quattro sub from Parts Express; it has excellent specs at a great price.  Turns out that it fits the factory enclosure perfectly, and the volume gives it a near perfect Q=0.7, lightly stuffed with Polyfil.  If your goal is to have great sounding audio within the vehicle that is totally hidden, I would strongly consider this option.  If you want to rattle the neighbors' windows, build a big ported enclosure.

Summary- trying to do any kind of add-on to the factory system was a disaster in my hands.  The factory audio system was a complete nightmare to deal with, but otherwise the Tahoe is a very user-friendly vehicle for audio installs.  A complete system re-do (with head unit wired to 4 door speakers, new sub and sub amp) cost me about $500 and only would have taken me 4-5 hours if I had started with that plan in mind.  With very modest components (Alpine head unit, Alpine 6.5" coax speakers, Profile 700watt mono sub amp, Dayton Quattro 8" sub) I have an EXCELLENT sounding system, and my truck looks completely factory.  This is a nice touch when you live in Memphis; I don't want my truck to scream "steal me".

Good luck!

badass_chris 
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I have an 04 Silverado with the Bose sytem. I am trying to add two subs. (I had an 03 yukon w/bose that I took everything out of). I am confused about the sub amp vs. the left/right rear speaker output. I have the Monster Factory Linx FX100.

I am trying to save a little money by installing the stuff into my truck. The guy I bought the truck from had an amp, but took it. He said he never got the subs working? I poked around and found his P.A.C coverter in the driver kick panel, I removed it. There is a 4 gauge amp kit in there too. It looks like all I have to do is confirm the remote on/off, and use my FX100.

I thought I remember the installer putting my FX 100 under the center console like you described. What is the difference between the kick panel and the center console? And should I be trying to find the sub amp, etc? I think I have the sub? It has a bunch of bass emitting from the front part of the console, so it seems like there is something in there? 

I feel like I am a sensible guy, but the last thing I want to do is jack up my truck. I almost feel stupid tyring to save the 100 bucks on the install..Can you help?

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Posted: January 22, 2007 at 5:55 AM / IP Logged  
Yes, the sub is in the center console. Go to the speaker wires at the sub to connect your line out converter. Go ahead and disconnect your factory sub, too.
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