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name101 
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Posted: January 02, 2007 at 1:16 PM / IP Logged  
I installed a bulldog remote starter (model rs1100i) in my wifes 2004 Dodge Durango and I pressed the button for it to start before I moved on to hooking up the parking lights and door locks to it, just to make sure it would start and it doesn't. O.K., so here is some information, I printed the wire diagram off of the bulldog website and before I got started I wrote to them to ask if I would need a bypass module for the truck being as it came with the black key with the buttons built in. They told me no you only need it for the gray key. With that out of the way I went an wired some relays up and soldered resistors in line so that I would have everything I need to work on it from start to finish without needing to stop. So anyway I did that and than today I left my wife take my truck to work so I could work on hers'. I would like to say before I forget that I installed this unit on my truck which is an 02' Dodge Ram and I had no trouble installing that, although I did need the bypass for my truck, which I found out after I installed it and it would start and than stop a few seconds later and it works great. Anyway once I went to get started I realized that some of the wire colors from the paper I printed off of the bulldog site weren't even in the truck, so thats when I came to this site and was searching for info and I found some wire diagram info and these ones say different colors than the bulldog site. On top of that there was two people that answered the question on this site when someone asked for the diagram and they both are a little different with what they say the color of the wires are. So now I'm really confused and I really would appreciate any help that someone might be able to give me. I can take pictures if you might need them to help me out. I hooked it up as follows the constant power to the RED / orange & RED / blue that is from the info I got from this site but the bulldog says RED / orange but noted that with automatic temp control which I have that there will be an extra RED / brown and a 3rd accessory wire a dark blue. I do not have those wires but yes I do have the auto temp control. Next is ignition which is hooked up to pink/lt. green & pink. That is from this site also. Bulldog says the same with the exception being it says it could be a pink or black wire. Next is accessory which I hooked up to pink / YELLOW & pink / YELLOW(the smaller wire) Which is from this site but this site also said that the wire could be pink/blue for the second wire depending on model but bulldog said pink / YELLOW & pink/purple, with a note to read #1 which says the info I said earlier about the automatic temp control wire colors. Next is starter which is pink/lt. blue. Both your site and bulldog were the same for that one. Than the ground wire. Next is the factory alarm shut down wire(FASD) that wire I didn't hook up at first and than I did to see if it would do something, it didn't. I hooked it up to the key sense wire that is violet/lt. brown, which I got that info from this site. The ignition bypass wire I also tried to hook up to the key sense wire (the wire that you would normally use to hook up the bypass kit with) and nothing happened. The last wire was the brake and both this site and bulldog said the same thing which was WHITE/ tan. I really really tried to be as complete as possible in describing everything. If I left out anything that you might need to help me out please just ask. Could I need a bypass kit even though they told me no and if I do need one would that stop the truck from starting because I mean it did nothing. It didn't even start for a couple of seconds or even try to start. When I pluged the harnesses into the unit it clicked on and off so it is getting power but I have no idea why it isn't starting. If anyone lives around me and wants to give my a hand that would be great also. I live in spring city, PA. Thanks again for any help that you might be able to give me.
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Posted: January 02, 2007 at 1:25 PM / IP Logged  
Wow...thats quite a post...... I wish I had time to read it all?
name101 
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Posted: January 02, 2007 at 1:39 PM / IP Logged  
I should add that I did say when I plug it in it makes the clicking sound but that is the only time the unit itself makes any noise (clicking) when I press the button on the remote the unit doesn't click at all. Thanks again
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Posted: January 02, 2007 at 1:40 PM / IP Logged  
DEI's database is what I use, and they are correct more times than not. Bulldog has never been right in my experience. You should always verify all wiring with a DMM PRIOR to hooking anything into the wiring. Here is what DEI lists:
DIRECTWIRE™ WIRING INFORMATION - DODGE / DURANGO / 2004 / Remote Start
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12volts      RED / org (30A), RED / blue (20A)       +       ignition harness
Notes: Vehicles with ATC (Automatic Temperature Control) heating and A/C systems have an extra RED / brown (40A) 12V wire, and an extra dk. blue accessory wire.
Starter      pink/lt. blue       +       ignition harness
Second Starter      N/A            
Ignition      pink/lt. green       +       ignition harness
Second Ignition      pink or black       +       ignition harness
Third Ignition      N/A            
Accessory      pink / YELLOW       +       ignition harness
Notes: Vehicles with ATC (Automatic Temperature Control) heating and A/C systems have an extra RED / brown (40A) 12V wire, and an extra dk. blue accessory wire.
Second Accessory      pink/purple       +       ignition harness
Keysense      PURPLE / tan       -       ignition harness
Power Lock      PURPLE / dk. green       -       see notes
Notes: Lock is negative trigger thru a 330 ohm resistor. Unlock is negative trigger thru a 100 ohm resistor. MUST use relays.
On vehicles without memory seats, the wire can be found in the driver kick, door harness. On vehicles with memory seats, the wire is in the driver door at the DMMM (Driver Memory Mirror Module).
Power Unlock      same as power lock wire            
Lock Motor      lt. green       5wi      driver kick, door harness
Unlock Motor      tan/lt. green       5wi      driver kick, door harness
Parking Lights+      pink/red (L), WHITE/ orange (R)      +       fuse box, black plug, pins 6 and 5
Parking Lights-      pink/red       -       headlight switch
Notes: Parking lights are negative trigger thru a 1100 ohm resistor. There is a rest resistance on the wire, so MUST use a relay to isolate away from the switch.
Hazards      WHITE/ dk. blue       -       hazard switch
Notes: Hazards are negative trigger thru a 120 ohm resistor.
Turn Signal(L)      use hazards wire            
Turn Signal(R)      use hazards wire            
Reverse Light      WHITE/ lt. green or WHITE/ red       +       fuse box, black plug, pin 17 or 18
Door Trigger      see notes       -       see notes
Notes: The LF door trigger is purple, RF door is PURPLE / white, LR door is PURPLE / gray, and RR door is purple / YELLOW. Use all four wires and diode isolate each wire from each other and the control module. Refer to DirectFax 1076 for wiring information.
The rear door triggers are in a large 74 pin plug near the fuse box.
On vehicles without memory seats, the front door triggers are in the same plug as the rears. On vehicles with memory seats, the front door triggers are in the doors at the DMMM (Driver Memory Mirror Module), and PMMM (Passenger Memory Mirror Module).
Dome Supervision      yellow/orange       +       large 74 pin plug near fuse box
Trunk/Hatch Pin      PURPLE / orange       -       large 74 pin plug near fuse box
Hood Pin      PURPLE / lt. blue       -       hood pin switch
Trunk/Hatch Release      N/A            
Power Sliding Door      N/A            
Factory Alarm Arm      arms on lock with door open            
Factory Alarm Disarm      factory remote only            
Disarm No Unlock      with ignition and Sentry Key            
Tachometer      NOT red or BROWN / white       ac       any ignition coil or fuel injector
Wait to start      N/A            
Brake Wire      WHITE/ tan       +       fuse box, black plug, pin 19
Parking Brake      dk. GREEN / WHITE       -       parking brake switch
Horn Trigger      dk. GREEN/ purple       -       horn switch
Memory Seat 1      lt. GREEN/ dk. blue       -       Driver Memory Mirror Module in door
Notes: Memory seat 1 is negative trigger thru a 7K ohm resistor. Memory seat 2 is negative trigger thru a 2K ohm resistor. MUST use relays.
Memory Seat 2      same as memory seat 1 wire       -      
Memory Seat 3      N/A       -      
Interface Module:      Category:
Immobilizer Bypass      Required:
Yes      Type:
Sentry Key
Part #: 556UW
Alternate Part1 #: DesignTech 20402
Alternate Part2 #: DesignTech 29402
Notes: Standard on the Limited models. Optional on the SLT models.
Interface Module:      Category:
Door Lock Interface      Required:
Yes      Type:
Multiplex
Part #: 456LW
Notes:
Smart Starter Kill Relays: Not Available
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Directed Electronics assumes no responsibility with regards to the accuracy or currency of this information. Proper installation in every case is and remains the responsibility of the installer. DEI assumes no liability or responsibility resulting from improper installation, even in reliance upon this information.
As far as the reference to the gray keys go, that only applies to keys without remotes built in. You probably have a transponder. The easiest way to tell, is once you have your starter hooked up according to the above chart try remote starting, if it does not start, put a key in the ignition in the off position and try again if it starts you have a transponder. If it does not start, recheck your wiring and try again.
name101 
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Posted: January 02, 2007 at 5:54 PM / IP Logged  
Is there anyone on here that I can e-mail some pictures too? I will take pictures of the wires under the dash and maybe someone could help me more that way, because its a 04 dodge durango limited and has everything in it. It has ATC but the extra wires (RED / brown & dk. blue) are not under the dash. Are those wires not with the ignition wires ? I don't know I still need more help. My e-mail is ridnlowtahoe@msn.com Thanks again for any help you can provide.
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Posted: January 02, 2007 at 6:16 PM / IP Logged  
Do you have a bad connection anywhere? How did you make your connections?  Take it one step at a time & don't panic. Use a DMM & check for voltage @ all your ignition wires. Make sure the plug is securely inserted into the Bulldog unit. Confirm each wire is properly connected, one at a time. If everything seems OK, Maybe you have a bad unit. Can you return it & try another? Do a process of elimination.
Good Enough Isn't!
bigboy49251 
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Posted: January 03, 2007 at 5:25 AM / IP Logged  

The clicking noise is a safty feature you need to ground the hook pin switch wire put the break and hold the start button and the unit should stop ticking at you and start the car also have you tried just turning the key in the on position and clicking the start button and seeing if it starts? let me know if this helps

name101 
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Posted: January 04, 2007 at 9:01 PM / IP Logged  
I was wondering if anyone knows of an easier way to hook up the lock & unlock function, other than the wire in the drivers door being as this truck has memory seats and you have to tap in at the dmmm. If not an easier way, well than how about some tips on getting the wire into the door because it seems impossible.
chris354 
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Posted: January 04, 2007 at 9:53 PM / IP Logged  

I dont no about an easier way but there is a how to In the car audio forum on running wires through the door molex that might help.

ers1121 
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Posted: January 05, 2007 at 4:06 AM / IP Logged  

I assume you are installing a remote start. Use this from bypasskit.com

  http://www.bypasskit.com/product.aspx?prodid=XK532

Ed
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