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importhunter 
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Posted: April 15, 2007 at 1:23 PM / IP Logged  

Ok here is what I have. I have 1 type X 10in. sub. It is the 4 ohm DVC style. I also have 2 Rockford Fosgate 1200W 2 channel "punch" series amplifiers (the ones that are about 3 years old). I build the ported box to alpines specs on their site.

My problems are as follows: After running the sub for a little bit it starts to smell a little funny, not like a burnt speaker but similar to glue or resin. I reenforced the box with fiberglass resin but it is dry and has been cured for over a month. The other problem is after a while one of my amps gets hot and then the thermo protect kicks it off.

I have the amps where they can get enough air too. I have plenty of power getting to them too. I have 2 alternators, 2 optoma redtops and 1, 1 farad cap right before each amp. I am constantly at 14.75 volts.

any suggestions?

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Posted: April 15, 2007 at 1:47 PM / IP Logged  

You bridged each amp to one voice coil?  To *one* 10-inch woofer?  Huh. 

I mean, this isn't really an answer but my box still smells a little like resin and I built it like 3 years ago.

Anyway, I'm just wondering here, this doesn't really have anything to do with your problem obviously, but, how do you have your red tops wired together?

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importhunter 
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Posted: April 17, 2007 at 6:27 AM / IP Logged  
I bridged each amp to each voice coil. I have my redtops wired in parrellel.
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Posted: April 17, 2007 at 4:38 PM / IP Logged  
How are your gains set???
What model amps do you have??? My guess is that they are the 400.2s
Rockford always lists the PEAK power for their punch amps.
Like 300 watts rms but "1200 WATT AMP!!!!"
roo-dog 
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Posted: April 17, 2007 at 5:25 PM / IP Logged  

... my box makes my truck smell like fiberglass almost everytime i bump it, especially on nice days with the window open-  aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!

built it well over year ago.  let it dry with a fan on it for a week before i put it in, too-lol!

i know it's possible to wire up two amps to a dvc sub, but how picky will the sub/ amps be in relation to how evenly the gain is set on each amp.  i haven't had too much experience here, but my mind is telling me that if the amps aren't putting out the exact same wattage, then you might run into problems?     anyone with a definite answer on that? 

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Posted: April 17, 2007 at 10:22 PM / IP Logged  
I wouldn't do it, you have a 1 in a million chance of your amps having the same gain factor, and throw in the phase inversions throughout both amps by the time they output im willing to bet the signals will be out of phase by a few degrees which will definitely heat up that sub. Use one amp.
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importhunter 
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Posted: April 18, 2007 at 6:32 AM / IP Logged  
The thing is , is the sub is staying cool. My amps are the 401s's. I am thinking of getting a diffrent amp though, any reccomendations for a 3000W amp?
Alpine Guy 
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Posted: April 18, 2007 at 12:42 PM / IP Logged  
Look for a amp that puts out around 1000 watts RMS at around 13 volts.
Alpine, JL, theres lots, too many to name. Ideally you should be paying around $.50 for every watt RMS.
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Posted: April 18, 2007 at 12:47 PM / IP Logged  
Alpine Guy, are you figuring at a 2 ohm impedance with that 50 cents / watt ideal?
Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
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Posted: April 18, 2007 at 4:11 PM / IP Logged  
Yeah pretty much. Im just trying to stray him away from those awesome deals "1000 watt amp, $75!!"
Basically a good 1000 watt rms amp will cost at least around $500 plus.
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