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gizmo123 
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Posted: May 02, 2007 at 3:57 PM / IP Logged  
Have weird constant buzzing noise, tried all the usual ideas but nothing seems to work, so I thought I'd appeal this awesome group....
* Kenwood DNX7100 HU 2000 Toyota Land Cruiser, factory amp & speakers. HU connected to Toyota adapter harness that ties all pre-out RCA grounds into Toyota signal ground to amp. Amp has floating signal ground input. HU ties signal & chassis ground together.
* Constant buzz, all speakers, anytime engine is on. I would guess around 100Hz. Quiet with factory HU or with Kenwood DPX501. Buzz doesn't change with engine rpm, always around 100Hz.
* Doesn't seem to be fuel pump: tried diagnostic of key to 'acc', then to 'on', fuel pump is supposed to turn on for a few seconds, but no buzz whatsoever.
* HU wired to factory harness chassis ground. Buzz is worse if HU is directly grounded to metal behind dash.
* Tried Neucleus noise filters on both acc & constant power. No difference. Tried ground loop isolators -- makes noise worse, depending on their position.
* DNX7100 is drawing under 2A from constant +12V.
Any ideas? I'm almost ready to give up....
austincustoms 
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Posted: May 02, 2007 at 4:19 PM / IP Logged  
If you're using the ground in the harness, create your own ground. The factory ground is typically substandard for after market units.
jmelton86 
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Posted: May 02, 2007 at 5:44 PM / IP Logged  

I agree. It simply isn't big enough.

You can leave that one intact, just run another ground off the HU to a fresh piece of metal. Also ground the HU chassis as well.

Let us know...

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gizmo123 
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Posted: May 03, 2007 at 7:45 PM / IP Logged  
Weird.
I tried 10 gauge wire from HU chassis ground to grounding bolt next to amp (used by factory harness gnd wire). Didn't change anything. Also tried 10 gauge wire back to batt negative, no change.
I'm thinking or running speaker out wires from HU to factory amp, and feeding these to factory amp via line output converter. Does it makes sense to try this? Or would it likely be even worse than using HU pre-outs?
Thanks!
gizmo123 
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Posted: May 03, 2007 at 7:58 PM / IP Logged  
One more detail....
There are actually 2 noises: (1) constant buzz when engine is running; (2) high-pitch whine anytime factory dash lights dimmer is part-way on, even with engine off. This one changes pitch depending on dimmer setting.
HU dimmer wire isn't connected.
Noise (1) is the bigger problem. I can get rid of (2) by turning dash lights either off, or to full brightness.
Thanks!
neon1 
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Posted: May 04, 2007 at 8:46 AM / IP Logged  

Hi,

Awhile ago I was experiencing all these symptoms myself on LX470, which is more or less the same thing as Land Cruiser.. Head Unit - Sony WS-X2200. Unfortunately, nothing seemed to work. Constant buzz when engine is running regardless of ground point, signal or power cabling, e.t.c.

Finally I ended up installing Alpine MRP-F320 amp. It fits perfectly where OEM amplifier used to live.

So you're not alone!

Good luck!


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