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init 
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Posted: September 11, 2007 at 12:20 PM / IP Logged  
You need to power all 3 wires at once.  That's what the relays are for.
eg0rka 
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wouldn't i just need 2 ignition wires tought?
use voltmeter to figure out which are ignition wires as you describes before and use 2 relays for thouse?
by the way do you think I can pickup relays in any car audio shop? any special relays I should ask for?
eg0rka 
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"bangster" from TCCOA forum said he used both grey/orange wires for his autostart but he used one relay
it does seem that relay will be needed regardless. i will stop by a few places see if I can buy a couple.
any recommendations on which Relay to look for?
catalin capota 
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Why don't you do this.
With a couple of jumpers and the key IN the ignition in the OFF position;
- jumper from constant power to ignition 1
- jumper from constant power to ignition 2
- pulse constant power to starter wire till vehicle runs
Does it keep running now? If so then you need a immobilizer bypass.
If not then you don't have the right ignition wires connected.
catalin capota 
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eg0rka wrote:
here is another thing
when i take my car off alarm it wotn start right away... i need to press a few buttons on a remote and then it allows me to start it (with the key ofcourse)
Did you mean that it wont CRANK OVER or CRANK BUT NOT RUN?
eg0rka 
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Posted: September 11, 2007 at 7:48 PM / IP Logged  
it wont crank over. engine is doing 0
i just picked up 2 relays and im going to attempt to wire them as init recommended (shows in pdf file he posted)
im trying to figure out how thouse relays have to be hooked up right now (which connection to which wire)
i should be able to figure it out :D
eg0rka 
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okay so here is what relay i bought look like (its 30amp bosch relay)
starter makes car start, turn off shortly - Page 4 - Last Post -- posted image.
Looking at the PDF file here
Just to Verify I connect 30 and 87A in parallel
and then we got 3 seperate cables ground, 12V and alarm input?
im not sure what that round thingie mean between 85 and 86
init 
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Don't worry about the curly line between 85 and 86.  That's just showing you that's the coil inside the relay.

85 is connected to the output of your alarm, 86 is connected to ground.

87 is connected to a fused constant 12V source.  Make sure if you're using this to power an ignition wire that the voltage on the constant 12V doesn't drop out when the vehicle is starting.

30 is connected to the ignition wire in the car.  Nothing is connected to 87a in this application.

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