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senaddor

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Posted: November 11, 2007 at 8:51 PM / IP Logged

After I follow the instructions to hold override button to get into programming on page 13 I hear no response (clicking) from module. Attached is the link to programming part of my installation manual.

http://webpages.eng.wayne.edu/~aj2947/f50.pdf

moonliter

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Posted: November 11, 2007 at 9:53 PM / IP Logged

I think you are missing a few pages, particularly the options feature page is not there.

Just a reminder, your car has a neg door trigger, hope you hooked it right.

senaddor

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Posted: November 12, 2007 at 5:47 AM / IP Logged

Added page 4.

http://webpages.eng.wayne.edu/~aj2947/f50.pdf.pdf

senaddor

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Posted: November 12, 2007 at 2:20 PM / IP Logged

I am now able to get into programming mode. Here is the cause of the issue. Initially (before I posted this add) I was able to get into programming mode briefly. Then I must have by mistake set polarity of door trigger to "positive". Later I tried getting into programming mode, but couldn't get it. I closed all doors and was able to get into programming to change this polarity to negative. Thanks MOONLITER. I have another issue. I will post a seperate add for that.

moonliter

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Posted: November 12, 2007 at 5:59 PM / IP Logged

I just went thru the programming options. The steps taken are pretty straight forward. For tach sense you need to set the following options.

Option bank 2 - feature 1 (tach mode) to off (use tach input)

Option bank 3 - feature 1 (door polarity) to off (neg). feature 4 (tach learning) to off (start learn) should do the tach learn once you select this feature.

senaddor

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Posted: November 12, 2007 at 7:13 PM / IP Logged

Did the tach learning. Still won't start. Cranck once, but no start. The only way remote start takes over if I have the vehicle started and I hold both buttons together to start. Then I can pull out key. It won't start in any other position.

senaddor

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Posted: November 12, 2007 at 8:03 PM / IP Logged

I installed Code Alarm F50 remote starter on my 2000 Mazda Protégé. The issue is vehicle will only crank (turn over) for about 1 sec and WILL NOT start. I tried to start the vehicle in all position. The only way remote starter actually takes over is when the vehicle is started and key is in ignition. I can then pull out the key and the vehicle keeps running. I did program the tach properly. Doors lock and unlock OK. Good installers please help me figure this out.

Here are the connections I made:

Basic Harness
Pin	Color	Description	Pol	Connected to Vehicle
1B	WHITE	Parking Lights	-	BROWN wire at headlight switch
2B	BLUE	Lock Motor		SEE Diagram Attached
4B	RED	Main Bat +12V		BLACK/ WHITE at ignition switch
5B	BLACK	Ground		Seperatly grounded on eyelet
6B	VIOLET/RED	Starter Key (Key Side)		BLACK/ BLUE connected to key side at ignition switch
7B	PINK	Ignition 1		BLUE at ignition switch
8B	VIOLET	Starter Output (Motor Side)		BLACK/ BLUE connected to starter motor side at ignition switch
14B	GREEN	Unlock Motor		SEE Diagram Attached
17B	BROWN	Disarm overide button		Connected
18B	BROWN	Disarm overide button		Connected
19B	GRAY	Hood Pin Input		Connected
20B	GREEN/ VIOLET	Door Trigger	-	BLACK/ BLUE drivers kick panel
22B	RED	LED 2		Connected
23B	BLACK	LED 1		Connected
Car Starter Harness
Pin	Color	Description	Pol	Connected to Vehicle
2C	RED	Main Bat +12V		BLACK/ WHITE at ignition switch
3C	PINK/WHITE	Ignition 2		BLACK/ RED at ignition switch
4C	ORANCE	HVAC		BLACK/ WHITE at ignition switch (not same as +12V BLACK/ WHITE)
7C	BROWN	Brake Input	+	GREEN/ YELLOW at brake pedal switch
8C	BLACK/ WHITE	Neutral Safety	-	BLACK/ BLUE at PCM
9C	VIOLET/WHITE	Tach		VIOLET/WHITE at diagnostic connecter under hood

code alarm f50, 2000 mazda protege - Page 2 -- posted image.

moonliter

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Posted: November 12, 2007 at 8:07 PM / IP Logged

so the remote could take over once it was started with key but wouldn't start with remote. I think ign and acc wires could be crossed. definity you want to check the wires over at ignition harness.

senaddor

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Posted: November 12, 2007 at 9:11 PM / IP Logged

After I started the vehicle I activated remote start and it took over. I was able to then pull the key out.

senaddor

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Posted: November 13, 2007 at 3:51 PM / IP Logged

Problem Solved. The issue was instructions in installation manual. It called for Neutral Safety wire to be connected to wire at shifter that showed ground when in Park or Neutral and 12V in all other positions, so I picked up this wire at PCM. After running out of ideas I measured the voltage at this wire while vehicle was trying to remote start. It turns out this wire is putting out 16V for brief moment while it's trying to start, therefore killing remote start operation. I cut this wire and grounded it. The remote start works fine now.

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