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.187 quick disconnects for 12g wire?


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audiocableguy 
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Posted: November 19, 2007 at 12:26 PM / IP Logged  
mmmm, I wonder how much of the 8 AWG is for show?
When your sponsers give you free product, you are going to disagree with them? Is it possible you had a high resistance termination that melted your 16 AWG? was your distance over 20 feet?
My old system: HiFonics Series 7 Colossus (x2) running x12 (12" Sub). Each amp running 2 ohms, if memory serves those amps do about +65 amps at the output. Never had a problem in 8 years. Now running Zapco 9.0 bridged (2800 W or so, using 16 AWG. Still no problems.
Even my PA rig JBL Vertec 4889,4880 with Crown MA-5002's I use 14 AWG multicable up to 100 feet and never experienced melting or heating. Thats (x4) 5000 watt amps running balls out 3 hours a night.
my vote is still for 16 AWG in a vehicle.
hardwarz 
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Posted: November 19, 2007 at 12:27 PM / IP Logged  
crewwzin wrote:
I'm not quite sure I agree with this totally. I have had 16 AWG start to melt the insulation on a high wattage install before. I switched it out to 12 AWG and it played for years like that (until I took the system out of the vehicle).

That scenario aside, if I did agree with you, I would have already written a letter to the Pioneer, Alma Gates, Memphis ,etc SPL teams and let them know that they wasted all that money using 8 AWG in their SPL rigs. They could have been using 16 AWG this whole time! 

Ok, with that in mind, where did they get the proper female quick disconnects?  Did they use Streetwires .205 an not the proper fit .187?  Did they use .250 and use plyers to squeese them down to fit better?  What gives?  Why do speakers have the .187 (3/16") standard and companies sell 12g wire?

Hardwarz.

audiocableguy 
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Posted: November 19, 2007 at 12:33 PM / IP Logged  
.187 connectors are not rated for that guage of wire. 0.25 are made for 10-12 Awg wire because they carry a 30 amp rating.
splaudio 
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Posted: November 19, 2007 at 6:43 PM / IP Logged  
hardwarz 
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Posted: November 19, 2007 at 8:32 PM / IP Logged  
splaudio wrote:

www.partsexpress.com

www.mcmaster-carr.com

Yeah, I already check McMaster and DigiKey.  I used your link and checked Parts Express.

So.  Speaker manufacturers make the speakers in 3/16" (.187") and wire companies sell 12g wire, but there's no .187" (3/16") connector for 12g.  Why?

Hardwarz

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